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Feb 2 2013 01:12am
To answer the question if Jubilance has an influence on the + exp when you wear jubi-items while suffusencing:

I got several opinions but no proof and no official statement from anyone knowing the gamecode.

So here is my simple experiment to get an answer to this :

I used 50 herring fish to suffusence them with no jubilance gear and then did the same with 35 % Jubilance gear (lvl 55 char). Suffing rank was 2 at this time and I didnt skill up during the experiment.
Here are the stats :


50 Fish level II (Herring) without jubilance = 9,06 exp rising
50 Fish level II (Herring) with 35 % jubilance =10,43 exp rising.



It took 36 minutes for 50 fish.
In the "with Jubi" part the character gained 16 % exp.

Ofc the stats arent always the same depending how often the random game factor giving you the chance to click, but I think 50 items should give an average idea.
I didnt misclick on both parts and the average stat was about + 7 % suffusencing per item.


So it seems there is a slight influence on the stats and if it is also with glyphing I will find out soon.
If you really intend to go in these skills, it is worth wearing them to my mind (~ 10 %), but that's a personal decision ofc.

(Btw I still look for high jubilance items, check my iso thread).

Good luck to you all,

Verdun

This post was edited by Verdun on Feb 2 2013 01:14am
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Feb 2 2013 01:15am
it would be neat to see how long it would take you with high jube gear for each teir to get to 71 while skilling lol. Would have to keep up with the time each session and find high gear too. I'm guessing no one has done it?
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Quote (rouxt @ Feb 2 2013 08:15am)
it would be neat to see how long it would take you with high jube gear for each teir to get to 71 while skilling lol.  Would have to keep up with the time each session and find high gear too.  I'm guessing no one has done it?


There was a competition once years ago to get to 71 with doing as less damage as possible. That's the only event I can think of when people bought jubilance gear.
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Feb 2 2013 01:25am
reminds me of the full jubilance climb that Philo (Lil[P]) did awhile ago

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Feb 2 2013 05:01am
Well... nice testing.

Did you factor in the time it took to place items in the boxes to do your skilling?

So... if it took you 1 second to add items into the boxes say 50 times = 50 seconds.
During that 50 seconds you gained experience from jubilance, not from skilling.

So from that, how certain are you that you are gaining experience while using jubilance gear when skilling?

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Feb 2 2013 05:01am
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Quote (izParagonzi @ Feb 2 2013 12:01pm)
Well... nice testing.

Did you factor in the time it took to place items in the boxes to do your skilling?

So... if it took you 1 second to add items into the boxes say 50 times = 50 seconds.
During that 50 seconds you gained experience from jubilance, not from skilling.

So from that, how certain are you that you are gaining experience while using jubilance gear when skilling?


Maybe I misunderstand you. If I get you right : I talk about two kinds of experience. The normal characters development (green-bar-level) experience and the suffusencing skill experience.
Ofc suffusencing exp is not giving while you place items. The characters development runs the whole time - it is so slow, that the little time refering to the rest of the (while suffusencing) time can impossibly count up to that 16 %.
So you get character experience while skilling for sure.
Was that your question ? We can talk in german or french on pm's as well if thats more clear to you to avoid language-based misunderstandings. I prefer both rather than english myself.

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Feb 2 2013 10:31am
Quote (izParagonzi @ Feb 2 2013 05:01am)
Well... nice testing.

Did you factor in the time it took to place items in the boxes to do your skilling?

So... if it took you 1 second to add items into the boxes say 50 times = 50 seconds.
During that 50 seconds you gained experience from jubilance, not from skilling.

So from that, how certain are you that you are gaining experience while using jubilance gear when skilling?


I think your question is pointless.

Youre saying he cant count the time used to place an item in the box, but this is incorrect.

If you are skilling you are forced to lose the time placing the items in the box, so he can count the entire time from start to finish as part of his results, because it is not like he is creating time that wasnt being used previously. Whether you wear jubliance or not you still have to spend 1 second per item to place them in the box.
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Quote (Verdun @ Feb 3 2013 01:02am)
Maybe I misunderstand you. If I get you right : I talk about two kinds of experience. The normal characters development (green-bar-level) experience and the suffusencing skill experience.
Ofc suffusencing exp is not giving while you place items. The characters development runs the whole time - it is so slow, that the little time refering to the rest of the (while suffusencing) time can impossibly count up to that 16 %.
So you get character experience while skilling for sure.
Was that your question ? We can talk in german or french on pm's as well if thats more clear to you to avoid language-based misunderstandings. I prefer both rather than english myself.


Engilish is main language, unless you can speak Maori, then we maybe able to converse more.

Have you tested whether your character gains experience while placing items into the skill boxe(s) (having the character screen open I am assuming that you do)

Quote (seifersan @ Feb 3 2013 05:31am)
I think your question is pointless.

Youre saying he cant count the time used to place an item in the box, but this is incorrect.

If you are skilling you are forced to lose the time placing the items in the box, so he can count the entire time from start to finish as part of his results, because it is not like he is creating time that wasnt being used previously. Whether you wear jubliance or not you still have to spend 1 second per item to place them in the box.


Have you personally tested this by having your character screen open and used jubilance gear while skilling and making sure you watched the experience gained during the
items being loaded into the skill box???? If not, then don't say it is pointless of my post asking a question.
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Note: the experience gain bar only indicates 1% per 10,000 experience points gained. Not sure how many experience points are given per second per Jubilance point.
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Quote (klinezerokilla @ Feb 3 2013 08:33am)
i believe that he is saying you get more xp while skilling if wearing jubilance gear ~because~ you take that extra second to drag the item your skilling to the box. hence the more xp than if you wear no jubilance gear at all. i tested this myself in depth a year ago, no results worth publishing.


Thanks... I got that a little while ago... but then I keep thinking of Prof points and not experience points.
or maybe I am still lost... :)

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Feb 2 2013 01:35pm
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Feb 2 2013 01:33pm
i believe that he is saying you get more xp while skilling if wearing jubilance gear ~because~ you take that extra second to drag the item your skilling to the box. hence the more xp than if you wear no jubilance gear at all. i tested this myself in depth a year ago, no results worth publishing.

next test: whether xp gain has an effect on skilling; ie 54 xp gain vs none tests. this would interest me

This post was edited by klinezerokilla on Feb 2 2013 01:35pm
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Feb 14 2013 06:33am
Yeah, I used to skill when I had low health, and let's say I was muting, by the time it was actually in my inventory, my health jumped like 300~+ Because time still passes. .I understand it takes far less time to catch a fish but yeah, each fish SHOULD give you the same amount of exp, but let's say you do no clicking and Only snag (should take 2-3 seconds longer) i'm sure you'll be getting more then 10exp because of each second that goes by. Of course, nothing wrong with using jub while skilling, but it doesnt actually effect the % of the catch/mute etc just time that's passing
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