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Apr 25 2025 04:12am
Hey all!

I was under the impression that you could complete the MQ multiple times with the same class, but now I think that may be incorrect. Looking at the profiles of many expert players, they often have MQ pass/fail ratios like 2/25 or 3/60. That makes it look like the MQ isn't infinitely "farmable", at least not multiple times with the same class.

So my question is:

1) can you successfully complete the MQ multiple times with the same class?
2) if you do complete the MQ multiple times with the same class, do you get guild points every time?
3) If yes to 1 & 2 above, why does the profile for so many high-ranking players have MQ pass/fail rates that seem so low?

Thanks as always - this game is a blast to learn :)
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Apr 25 2025 04:15am
You can get the right sequence again on a class youve already passed but wont unlock another.

You get a gp everytime you MQ

You get more doors on higher classes.

This post was edited by subwolf22 on Apr 25 2025 04:15am
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You can get the right sequence again on a class youve already passed but wont unlock another.

You get a gp everytime you MQ

You get more doors on higher classes.


That makes sense, and that was my initial impression of how it works. Only level 45 myself so haven't reached that point yet :)

So using yourself as an example, it says you have a MQ pass/fail rate of 5/63. So you have passed 5 times and failed 63, for a pass rate of about 7%. My guess is the number is low because passing the MQ with more advanced classes means having to open more doors to pass the MQ, and eventually there are so many doors that your odds of passing are VERY low. But are there some players who do not care about unlocking all the characters / resetting the ladder, and just continually farm MQ with base classes?

For example, it sounds like I could sell my guild points for 50/point when that time eventually comes. Also I believe my odds at passing the MQ with Barbarian are 50/50. Could I then only use the Barbarian and do the MQ 20 times, going on average 10/10 and earning 1,000fg if I were to sell my guild points every time?

This sounds beneficial, but looking at most of the other top players I have not seen any profiles that indicate that is what anyone else is doing. So I think I may be missing something :bonk:

This post was edited by Willitrix on Apr 25 2025 04:25am
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Apr 25 2025 04:28am
Well, ive had a few fails with 3, 4, and 5 doors this season. Everyone does.

If you find a guild who will pay 50 fg per gp then yes however you saw the section about how many gps per pass.
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Well, ive had a few fails with 3, 4, and 5 doors this season. Everyone does.

If you find a guild who will pay 50 fg per gp then yes however you saw the section about how many gps per pass.


Yes, if no one does the MQ multiple times with the same class and instead moves on to a higher class with more doors the math makes perfect sense. 2 doors has a 50% chance of passing, but 3 doors drops that down to 16.5% and 4 doors plummets to 4.125% :blink:

I just figured because the odds get so low there may players who just stick to running "2 door" base classes so that they can pass the MQ more consistently and sell the guild points. There probably is someone else doing that, I just have not found their profile yet :)
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That makes sense, and that was my initial impression of how it works. Only level 45 myself so haven't reached that point yet :)

So using yourself ^subwolf22 as an example, it says you have a MQ pass/fail rate of 5/63. So you have passed 5 times and failed 63, for a pass rate of about 7%. My guess is the number is low because passing the MQ with more advanced classes means having to open more doors to pass the MQ, and eventually there are so many doors that your odds of passing are VERY low. But are there some players who do not care about unlocking all the characters / resetting the ladder, and just continually farm MQ with base classes?

For example, it sounds like I could sell my guild points for 50/point when that time eventually comes. Also I believe my odds at passing the MQ with Barbarian are 50/50. Could I then only use the Barbarian and do the MQ 20 times, going on average 10/10 and earning 1,000fg if I were to sell my guild points every time?

This sounds beneficial, but looking at most of the other top players I have not seen any profiles that indicate that is what anyone else is doing. So I think I may be missing something :bonk:


You can only get more points first time u pass that specific character, u can ofc rollback and play the other classes u have unlocked as many times as u want, but it will only give +1 gp when MQ
That's why i said u could play new characters up to samy over and over if u wanted to to make an easy 50% ea time
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Feeder (first 5 classes u can choose) = 2 doors (1/2)
Samurai & Paladin = 3 Doors (1/6)
Monk & Ninja = 4 Doors (1/24)
Warlock & Headhunter = 5 Doors (1/120)
Alchemist = 6 Doors (1/720)

Yes, if no one does the MQ multiple times with the same class and instead moves on to a higher class with more doors the math makes perfect sense. 2 doors has a 50% chance of passing, but 3 doors drops that down to 16.5% and 4 doors plummets to 4.125% :blink:

I just figured because the odds get so low there may players who just stick to running "2 door" base classes so that they can pass the MQ more consistently and sell the guild points. There probably is someone else doing that, I just have not found their profile yet :)


the only ppl doing these things are newcommers, no old players do these things (well there used to be a few ppl in the past, but they didnt do it for fg tho)
Most ppl who play this game over a longer time wants to start build up their proficiences to make their characters "stronger"



This post was edited by NR1 on Apr 25 2025 04:41am
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Apr 25 2025 04:38am
I get your reasoning

I only run a lower class to top off Prof levels. But i dont get paid to mq so its whatever.

This post was edited by subwolf22 on Apr 25 2025 04:39am
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Hmm, if you are wanting to gain forum gold from selling GPs @ 50 per. You are better off creating 8 characters of the same class as a feeder using the same gear and hopefully find upgrades during that time.

50/50 chance to pass to samurai x 8 ... either +1 or +2 (2 for pass to samurai).

If you do NOT Pass on your first attempt, you use the same character again until you pass, then you switch to another feeder.

Once all 8 toons have passed to a Samurai, you use your main character to get to level 73 to MQ which has 3 doors (33%) ... NOW, if you do pass to Paladin, YOU CAN continue on that same character as a Paladin to level 75 to MQ and still only have 3 doors. If you pass to Monk, then the doors will be 4.... so then you can use another Samurai to repeat above.

Again... GPs @ 50 each is faster in this retrospect.

I hope this made some sense.

As for fails on other user characters don't mean much, it is all RNG based and luck... some people have reset with like under 100 MQ attempts... lucky sods.
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Apr 25 2025 04:48am
On feeder classes, you have a 50% chance to pass to samurai.
On samurai and paladin, that chance decreases.
On monk and ninja, it decreases again.
On warlock and headhunter, again.
And finally, on alchemist, again.


That’s why you see people with much more fails than passes. It becomes inevitable very quickly.

As a newer player without the gear to play a samurai, it could be in your best interest to either replay feeder classes on the same character or make multiple characters and get them all to samurai. The benefit of staying on the same character is proficiency gain. The downfall is even if you pass a feeder MQ on a character that has already passed feeder before you will only get 1 Guild Point.

I have two paladins and a monk because when I initially passed to monk I didn’t want to play monk. I’ve since gone back to climbing on my monk. If you’re going to be slashing in a guild that pay you per GP, it could be in your best interest to play multiple characters, as you get 2 points for a pass and 1 point for a fail (or for a pass on an already passed class).


I’d also like to say that while earning x fg per GP could be helpful early on to help you build up some gear, it would be more beneficial later on to get in a guild that helps you other ways (guild climbs, shared gear, etc.). You’ll make way more than 50 fg per climb, on average, just going from level 1-MQ.

This post was edited by Vaeflare on Apr 25 2025 04:56am
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On feeder classes, you have a 50% chance to pass to samurai.
On samurai and paladin, that chance decreases.
On monk and ninja, it decreases again.
On warlock and headhunter, again.
And finally, on alchemist, again.


That’s why you see people with much more fails than passes. It becomes inevitable very quickly.

As a newer player without the gear to play a samurai, it could be in your best interest to either replay feeder classes on the same character or make multiple characters and get them all to samurai. The benefit of staying on the same character is proficiency gain. The downfall is even if you pass a feeder MQ on a character that has already passed feeder before you will only get 1 Guild Point.

I have two paladins and a monk because when I initially passed to monk I didn’t want to play monk. I’ve since gone back to climbing on my monk. If you’re going to be slashing in a guild that pay you per GP, it could be in your best interest to play multiple characters, as you get 2 points for a pass and 1 point for a fail (or for a pass on an already passed class).


I’d also like to say that while earning x fg per GP could be helpful early on to help you build up some gear, it would be more beneficial later on to get in a guild that helps you other ways (guild climbs, shared gear, etc.). You’ll make way more than 50 fg per climb, on average, just going from level 1-MQ.


That is extremely helpful, thanks!

I figured no well established guild would probably be interested in me until I am better established myself, so the trading MQ for fg tactic will probably only last until I am established enough to be a more attractive recruit.

Because I can play this on mobile and fg gives a sort of crossover progression between LS and D2R my plan is to stick around for a long time and continue to slowly progress :)
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