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Jan 12 2017 01:03pm
Quote (Leevee @ Jan 12 2017 12:53pm)
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I'm taking part in a debate/argument on an online forum. If someone is defending a statement which should be easy to illustrate with an image, it's not unreasonable for me to request such an image.

You should know that people get to know your habits after a while of talking to you. By now, it's way too likely that I'll spend 8 minutes watching a video, only to come to the realization that it does not contain anything even remotely close to what I asked for. Which is why I am not watching the video.


that would go against the "playing dumb" instinct you identified. He plays the same cards over and over.
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Jan 12 2017 01:07pm
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that would go against the "playing dumb" instinct you identified. He plays the same cards over and over.


Just because he's rational doesn't mean he doesn't make mistakes. :|

He's a troll and a good one at that, but his methods' effictiveness dwindle against repeat customers.
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And at what point does perspective cause the sun to look like it's behind/below the horizon?

According to your logic, the "sun setting" would simple mean that the sun moves further and further away from us, until the point where its perspective line converges with the line that's level with Earth. This would mean that the sun becomes distant and invisible, it would not mean that the sun appears to drop below the horizon.


The sun doesn't actually set - at the point where it's about to become level and with your eyesight it has reached its limit according to the the inverse square law



and it just gets smaller and smaller and normally you dont see this.
usually it is blocked by atmospheric blocking, a land horizon or a cloud horizon.

If you are unwilling to watch any video - i dont know how to show you a proper sunset in a single image


Quote (Leevee @ Jan 12 2017 09:07am)
Just because he's rational doesn't mean he doesn't make mistakes. :|

He's a troll and a good one at that, but his methods' effictiveness dwindle against repeat customers.


The fact that Geocentric beliefs dont change is proof I am not trolling, if I was trolling for lol, id have a different answer to the same questions everytime they are asked over and over and over

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hmm i always thought to myself, why is that sun getting smaller and bigger all the time every day. Now i know!

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Jan 12 2017 01:31pm
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hmm i always thought to myself, why is that sun getting smaller and bigger all the time every day. Now i know!


now i get it earth is a yoyo and the sun is the end of the string!
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now i get it earth is a yoyo and the sun is the end of the string!


which makes sense because of how much Duncan profited on the yoyo revival of the 90s.

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which makes sense because of how much Duncan profited on the yoyo revival of the 90s.


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hmm i always thought to myself, why is that sun getting smaller and bigger all the time every day. Now i know!


maybe the yo-yo is how your brain sees things - every think of that?

Sometimes you have good trolls, most time you have bad trolls, makes sense now.

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The sun doesn't actually set - at the point where it's about to become level and with your eyesight it has reached its limit according to the the inverse square law

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/28/Inverse_square_law.svg/420px-Inverse_square_law.svg.png

and it just gets smaller and smaller and normally you dont see this.
usually it is blocked by atmospheric blocking, a land horizon or a cloud horizon.

If you are unwilling to watch any video - i dont know how to show you a proper sunset in a single image




The fact that Geocentric beliefs dont change is proof I am not trolling, if I was trolling for lol, id have a different answer to the same questions everytime they are asked over and over and over


And what causes the sun to look like it's setting when you're looking towards the ocean (which should be perfectly level)?
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Hey, have you guys seen any FE explanations yet for why you can see different stars from Australia vs Canada? I know the question has come up before, but I don't know if the FE community has tried tackling that one yet.
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