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Jan 12 2017 11:52am
Quote (shamsunoor @ Jan 12 2017 11:47am)
I think the best way to prove how it's impossible for the earth to be flat is just by looking at gravity..
It's always down.. on a sphere that would be the case as the centre of mass of a sphere is always below you but that isn't the case if the earth is flat.

Have i ended the discussion.. Is it over? Have i slayed Goliath? Am i a god? who knows..


read my post above dude. you're playing right into his hands.

gravity? the horizon? Copernicus?

you really think he hasn't an answer for these?

Quote (Leevee @ Jan 12 2017 11:53am)
No, because card_sultan will now play his "please prove that gravity is real" card.

You cannot win against him. He's too well versed as a troll, knows all the answers to all questions, and knows exactly when to act dumb so as to not have to acknowledge your facts.


perfectly said.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Jan 12 2017 11:53am
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Jan 12 2017 11:53am
Quote (shamsunoor @ Jan 12 2017 07:47pm)
I think the best way to prove how it's impossible for the earth to be flat is just by looking at gravity..
It's always down.. on a sphere that would be the case as the centre of mass of a sphere is always below you but that isn't the case if the earth is flat.

Have i ended the discussion.. Is it over? Have i slayed Goliath? Am i a god? who knows..


No, because card_sultan will now play his "please prove that gravity is real" card.

You cannot win against him. He's too well versed as a troll, knows all the answers to all questions, and knows exactly when to act dumb so as to not have to acknowledge your facts.
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Jan 12 2017 11:53am
Quote (card_sultan @ 12 Jan 2017 18:47)
This a classic example of reverse logic, Eratosthenes had to assume the Earth was round and that the sun must be far far away.

If the Earth is flat (which it is) you can use the same numbers and calculations to prove the sun is only 4000 km away.

Eratosthenes also had to assume sun rays 800km apart are completely parallel which of course they are not, they are called Crepuscular and you can see that effect from every light at night - local and outwardly propagating.

You can also prove the Moon is only 3000 miles away by not assuming the Earth is a ball which has never been proved by taking the angle the are away from the horizon, knowing the differce between the two point and using basic trigonometry, the only differnce between the Moon being 3000m away or 240k miles away is if you assume the earth is round.

To me this is the beginning of circle jerk logic

Q: How do you know the Earth is ball ? A: Because the Sun is far away.
Q: How do you know the Sun is far away? A : Because the earth is a Ball.


You could say that you can get different length shadows on a flat plane, but only through the geometry of a sphere can you calculate the circumference of earth based the on the angle of the shadow which was the point..
He got the circumference accurate because only through the calculation used for a sphere do you get it right.
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Jan 12 2017 11:55am
Quote (shamsunoor @ Jan 12 2017 11:47am)
I think the best way to prove how it's impossible for the earth to be flat is just by looking at gravity..
It's always down.. on a sphere that would be the case as the centre of mass of a sphere is always below you but that isn't the case if the earth is flat.

Have i ended the discussion.. Is it over? Have i slayed Goliath? Am i a god? who knows..


card believes gravity is a lie made up by nasa
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Quote (Leevee @ Jan 12 2017 11:53am)
No, because card_sultan will now play his "please prove that gravity is real" card.

You cannot win against him. He's too well versed as a troll, knows all the answers to all questions, and knows exactly when to act dumb so as to not have to acknowledge your facts.


You give tard_sultan too much credit. He really is stupid.
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Jan 12 2017 11:58am
Quote (shamsunoor @ Jan 12 2017 07:47am)
I think the best way to prove how it's impossible for the earth to be flat is just by looking at gravity..
It's always down.. on a sphere that would be the case as the centre of mass of a sphere is always below you but that isn't the case if the earth is flat.

Have i ended the discussion.. Is it over? Have i slayed Goliath? Am i a god? who knows..


Gravity has never been proven, no one ever saw Cavendish's experiment, they only read about it in his journal after he died.
In his experiment he claimed he had to be a mile away or else his only gravity would alter the result, but that has stopped a class ful of student thinking they can see something with a model.

The reason things fall can easily be explained with density and buoyancy.

An atoms position in a system is based upon its density in relation to the surrounding densities and the changes in magnetism, electricity and temperature. Density is the most important function in determining the position of an object.
Density is not just mass and volume, it is the vibration intensity within a volume in relation to the density of the surrounding medium.

Quote (Santara @ Jan 12 2017 07:55am)
You give tard_sultan too much credit. He really is stupid.


Aww, mad cause I wont blindly accept a photo from Nasa, :P Are you sure who is stupid?

Quote (Gratuitous @ Jan 12 2017 07:55am)
card believes gravity is a lie made up by nasa


Nahhhh, Newton did, kind of understanding when you also realize his main obsession was thinking he could turn things into gold. Yeah magic!

This post was edited by card_sultan on Jan 12 2017 12:05pm
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Jan 12 2017 12:00pm
Step 1: get challenged to explain the reality of things falling down without Gravity.

Step 2: Create a new definition for almost every term you're about to use to complete step 1. Including magnetism for non-metalic objects

Step 3: profit.

Quote (card_sultan @ Jan 12 2017 11:58am)
Aww, mad cause I wont blindly accept a photo from Nasa, :P Are you sure who is stupid?



you're right for once, you will only blindly deny them.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Jan 12 2017 12:04pm
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Jan 12 2017 12:06pm
Quote (card_sultan @ 12 Jan 2017 18:58)
Gravity has never been proven, no one ever saw Cavendish's experiment, they only read about it in his journal after he died.
In his experiment he claimed he had to be a mile away or else his only gravity would alter the result, but that has stopped a class ful of student thinking they can see something with a model.

The reason things fall can easily be explained with density and buoyancy.

An atoms position in a system is based upon its density in relation to the surrounding densities and the changes in magnetism, electricity and temperature. Density is the most important function in determining the position of an object.
Density is not just mass and volume, it is the vibration intensity within a volume in relation to the density of the surrounding medium.


YOU DO NOT PROVE THE EXISTENCE OF GRAVITY! Laws aren't proven. Laws are observable phenomena. For example Hook's Law: the strain in a solid is proportional to the applied stress within the elastic limit of that solid.
This is based on vigorous testing and experimentation. When you ask why something happens, you get something else which you can ask why for until you reach the very basic Laws of physics. Why is there gravity? Why is there an existance? why are there these 4 basic forces of the universe? Why can not information travel faster than light (without bending space-time)?
You come to a point where you find that the basic laws of physics govern this universe, these cannot be explained.

This post was edited by shamsunoor on Jan 12 2017 12:10pm
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Jan 12 2017 12:07pm
The ludicrous thing is that you think we scientists are trying to prove the existence of gravity? You have no idea what science is about. Period.
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Quote (shamsunoor @ Jan 12 2017 12:07pm)
The ludicrous thing is that you think we scientists are trying to prove the existence of gravity? You have no idea what science is about. Period.


you might be smart but you're honestly utterly failing to understand the conversation. His contention is that gravity IS assumed when it shouldn't be. your post above proves his point, not yours. he's not denying gravity exists, just trying to redefine what causes it (not rotation).

go out and do a bit of research into what flat earth theoriests believe and their common answers to the existence of certain phenomena. otherwise don't waste your time posting, as you're playing into his hands repeatedly.

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