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May 13 2018 11:35am
Quote (card_sultan @ May 13 2018 07:24am)
When you can explain why a 23.5 vertical tilt cause the seasons but a 180 degree horizontal one doesn't, it should be -50 below ever night.
Why do deny objectifiable reality and one of the axis of 3d space in favor of believing state scientist who tell you what to think.

and what math are you talking about - the math of a flower , a tree, a cloud a fish or your faith that we are going 2,567,000 mph constantly spinning and no one ever feels a thing, again this is not observable reality - that you demand people believe.

By your own definition , you are mentally insane.


I already can explain it, because it's super simple. It's also a topic we aren't prepared to move on to, and I told you that already, because we haven't finished the last one.

Math like the formula for gravity. Math like E=MC². Math like sine, cosine and tangent as they relate to fixing coordinates and their distances from each other relative to the north pole. Math like the formulas for force and acceleration. None of which yield results compatible with your flat Earth conspiracy.
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May 13 2018 11:55am
Quote (card_sultan @ May 13 2018 02:46pm)
your link yuo posted doesn't show Helios was related to Flat Earth, please post evidence of your claim.

i dont know how many times i need to repeat things for them to get trough your thick skull

Im not here to prove my beliefs to you - you are here to prove the consensus faith and if you cant do it - you're just trolling - 100%


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helios

1st section
Helios was described as a handsome young man crowned with the shining aureole of the Sun, who drove the chariot of the sun across the sky each day to earth-circling Oceanus and through the world-ocean returned to the East at night. In the Homeric Hymn to Helios, Helios is said to drive a golden chariot drawn by steeds

for starters that hints to geocentric system. The earth was not believed to travel around Helios

under greek mythology
at the hour of sunset, Helios climbed into a great golden cup in which he passes from the Hesperides in the farthest west to the land of the Ethiops, with whom he passes the dark hours.

So basically he returned to the east in the golden cup
If the earth was believed to be a globe that would have been unnecessary since he would have already been there

here's another link that has a similar description of the cult / mythology
http://www.theoi.com/Titan/Helios.html
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May 13 2018 02:12pm
Why does the sun has the same size wherever you see it from if the earth is flat ? please lmk
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May 13 2018 03:02pm
Quote (kai_jph @ May 13 2018 07:55am)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helios

1st section
Helios was described as a handsome young man crowned with the shining aureole of the Sun, who drove the chariot of the sun across the sky each day to earth-circling Oceanus and through the world-ocean returned to the East at night. In the Homeric Hymn to Helios, Helios is said to drive a golden chariot drawn by steeds

for starters that hints to geocentric system. The earth was not believed to travel around Helios

under greek mythology
at the hour of sunset, Helios climbed into a great golden cup in which he passes from the Hesperides in the farthest west to the land of the Ethiops, with whom he passes the dark hours.

So basically he returned to the east in the golden cup
If the earth was believed to be a globe that would have been unnecessary since he would have already been there

here's another link that has a similar description of the cult / mythology
http://www.theoi.com/Titan/Helios.html


Sorry Flat Earth doesn't believe the sun is being pulled by a chariot, this is just part of your Sun Worshiping relegion disguised for the common slaves to not realize, we dont worship the sun like you do.


Quote (Santara @ May 13 2018 07:35am)
I already can explain it, because it's super simple. It's also a topic we aren't prepared to move on to, and I told you that already, because we haven't finished the last one.

Math like the formula for gravity. Math like E=MC². Math like sine, cosine and tangent as they relate to fixing coordinates and their distances from each other relative to the north pole. Math like the formulas for force and acceleration. None of which yield results compatible with your flat Earth conspiracy.


so the Math you claim i should worship is your faith that the earth is flying through space at a mere 3 million mph but you can't prove it ever.

How does your math explain that the ISS is only going 17,500 mph but the earth is going 66,600 mph, nice mythamatics. :wacko:

Quote (Ep0ch @ May 13 2018 06:59am)
Water is fluid. Therefor space is a gas.


NASA claims outer space is a perfect vacuum with no molecules to allow even sound to travel, thanks for proving you dont even understand your own relegion

This post was edited by card_sultan on May 13 2018 03:09pm
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May 13 2018 03:09pm
Quote (card_sultan @ May 13 2018 03:02pm)
Sorry Flat Earth doesn't believe the sun is being pulled by a chariot, this is just part of your Sun Worshiping relegion disguised for the common slaves to not realize, we dont worship the sun like you do.




so the Math you claim i should worship is your faith that the earth is flying through space at a mere 3 million mph but you can't prove it ever.

How does your math explain that the ISS is only going 17,500 mph but the earth is going 66,600 mph, nice mythamatics. :wacko:



Might as well believe it’s pulled by a chariot , flat earth has no other method which doesn’t amount to magic to explain sun/ moon / movement.

As to second part you really struggle with relative don’t you. The speed of earth you mention is in relation to sun, the iss speed is relation to earth. I’m sure you know this but lying / strawman it is the only arguments you have.
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May 13 2018 03:10pm
Quote (card_sultan @ May 13 2018 05:02pm)
Sorry Flat Earth doesn't believe the sun is being pulled by a chariot, this is just part of your Sun Worshiping relegion disguised for the common slaves to not realize, we dont worship the sun like you do.




so the Math you claim i should worship is your faith that the earth is flying through space at a mere 3 million mph but you can't prove it ever.

How does your math explain that the ISS is only going 17,500 mph but the earth is going 66,600 mph, nice mythamatics. :wacko:



The 17.5k mph is the orbit speed around the Earth, the 66k mph is the Earth’s orbit speed around the Sun. The ISS also orbits the Sun at the same speed ...

What were you trying to point to?
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May 13 2018 03:19pm
Quote (card_sultan @ May 13 2018 11:02pm)
Sorry Flat Earth doesn't believe the sun is being pulled by a chariot, this is just part of your Sun Worshiping relegion disguised for the common slaves to not realize, we dont worship the sun like you do.

Modern FE obviously. But in those days they obviously believed the earth was flat with that system

you even agreed to it here about the ancient people'
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=76076473&f=27&o=2170
Quote (card_sultan @ Aug 26 2017 11:24am)
Well every other ancient culture thought it was a circle


The original Helio Sun Cult didn't support GE model either as pointed out with that system and no reference exists to this effect

You wanna talk about wierd sun beliefs?
That vedic model you posted has more than 1 sun system



So now what stops the sun from the 2nd ring from shining in the main ring?

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May 13 2018 03:22pm
Quote (majorblood @ Sep 26 2017 04:11pm)
the earth is flat, if you disagree you are brainwashed


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May 13 2018 03:32pm
Quote (remco6 @ May 13 2018 11:09am)
Might as well believe it’s pulled by a chariot , flat earth has no other method which doesn’t amount to magic to explain sun/ moon / movement.

As to second part you really struggle with relative don’t you. The speed of earth you mention is in relation to sun, the iss speed is relation to earth. I’m sure you know this but lying / strawman it is the only arguments you have.


Sorry we have a working model understanding the forces, you dont even have a working model - just your faith

https://youtu.be/Ws6AAhTw7RAhttp://savefrom.net/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fyoutu.be%2FWs6AAhTw7RA&utm_source=userjs-chrome&utm_medium=extensions&utm_campaign=link_modifier[/URL]

so According to your Religion, as long as you dont realize the earth is also orbiting the sun at 66,600 mph , then 17,500 mph makes sense if your relatively spatially stupid and auto believe your story and dont question it.

And if your question it - you're attacked by the troll army of religious fanatics, who are unwillling and unable to do an ounce of research before they start attacking anyone who questions their faith.

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May 13 2018 03:41pm
Quote (kai_jph @ May 13 2018 11:19am)
Modern FE obviously. But in those days they obviously believed the earth was flat with that system

you even admitted it here about the ancient people'
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=76076473&f=27&o=2170

Quote (card_sultan @ Aug 26 2017 11:24am)
Well every other ancient culture thought it was a circle

The original Helio Sun Cult didn't support GE model either as pointed out with that system and no reference exists to this effect

You wanna talk about wierd sun beliefs?
That vedic model you posted has more than 1 sun system

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/1Qk59YRR7N4/maxresdefault.jpg

So now what stops the sun from the 2nd ring from shining in the main ring?


Sorry but Flat realizes the sun is due to perspective , not line of sight reality

your proposal that the sun is pulled by a chariot is completely ridiculous



And the sun worshiping comes from Heliopolis, not the plagiarized ancient Greeks who used it to disguise their pagan sun worshiping beliefs - thats why relegion still worships the soltices which are just arbitrary points

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