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Apr 27 2018 06:27pm
what sort of evidence could anyone possibly have to believe in a flat earth?
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Apr 27 2018 06:32pm
Quote (doyours @ Apr 27 2018 06:27pm)
what sort of evidence could anyone possibly have to believe in a flat earth?


oh dear god, you don't know yet do you.....

you damn lucky bastard....

we have been arguing the shape of the earth extensively on this forum for years.... YEARS DAMNIT
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Apr 27 2018 06:37pm
Quote (card_sultan @ Apr 27 2018 08:23pm)
Grabbity sucking things to earth vs the power of an infinite perfect vacuum as we hurling through that space at 1/2 the speed of light while also sucking in the centrifugal force from unknown cause that keeps us spinning at 1000 mph (more than the speed of sound).

Its a miracle that you can even move according to your ridiculous theory that you cant prove.


Gravity is the force holding you on the ground. I'm eager to read the dumb explanation you can give as to why objects are forced to the ground.

What are you talking about when you mention the "power of an infinite perfect vacuum".

Half the speed of light? What are you even talking about?

The spin at the equator pushes objects away at 0.04 Newtons of force per kilogram. By contrast, gravity at the earth's surface pulls objects in with 9.81 Newtons of force per kilogram. In case you didn't know 0.04 <<<< 9.81. That force wouldn't makw a tree grow horizontally, not at all.
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Apr 27 2018 06:38pm
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Gravity is the force holding you on the ground. I'm eager to read the dumb explanation you can give as to why objects are forced to the ground.

What are you talking about when you mention the "power of an infinite perfect vacuum".

Half the speed of light? What are you even talking about?

The spin at the equator pushes objects away at 0.04 Newtons of force per kilogram. By contrast, gravity at the earth's surface pulls objects in with 9.81 Newtons of force per kilogram. In case you didn't know 0.04 <<<< 9.81. That force wouldn't makw a tree grow horizontally, not at all.


half the speed of light lmfao?!?!?
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Apr 27 2018 06:58pm
I love this thread.
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Apr 27 2018 07:37pm
Literally ANYONE can pay nasa $100,000 and go to space right now including you, this dumb argument is already over.
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Apr 27 2018 07:39pm
Quote (card_sultan @ Apr 27 2018 04:23pm)
Grabbity sucking things to earth vs the power of an infinite perfect vacuum as we hurling through that space at 1/2 the speed of light while also sucking in the centrifugal force from unknown cause that keeps us spinning at 1000 mph (more than the speed of sound).

Its a miracle that you can even move according to your ridiculous theory that you cant prove.


:santa:



you're a good dodger, aren't you? Do you live in LA too?


I really love watching Chainsaw just continue to intellectually slap you over and over again.
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Apr 27 2018 07:40pm
Quote (Chainsaw47 @ Apr 27 2018 02:37pm)
Gravity is the force holding you on the ground. I'm eager to read the dumb explanation you can give as to why objects are forced to the ground.
What are you talking about when you mention the "power of an infinite perfect vacuum".
Half the speed of light? What are you even talking about? The spin at the equator pushes objects away at 0.04 Newtons of force per kilogram. By contrast, gravity at the earth's surface pulls objects in with 9.81 Newtons of force per kilogram. In case you didn't know 0.04 <<<< 9.81. That force wouldn't makw a tree grow horizontally, not at all.


vacuums are much stronger than so called gravity which is just weight really,
half the speed of light? well its 66,600mph around the sun, 500,000 mph around the milky way, 2 million mph around the great attractor + were expanding into space at 1/2 the speed of light so its faster really
The spin at the equator is not all the force gravity need to defeat - you are told only a small fraction to keep you indoctrinated

Disproof of Gravity
By Aaron Guerami, aguerami@gmail.com

The standard particle model has yet to find any evidence of Gravity. This is most concerning since gravity is used by most modern equations. Great particle accelerators have hunted for any signs of gravity. Nonefound!
There are several ways to disprove gravity.
1) Experimentally
One simple experiment shows there is no gravity. The Helium Balloon. It rises. How is this possible? Classical Mechanics shows that Force equals the Constant of Gravity multiplied by the
Mass of Object 1 multiplied by the Mass of Object 2 divided by the Distance between the two masses raised to the second power. F=GM1M2/r^2
With this logic, the mass of the Earth is so great that the helium balloon would have no choice but to be attracted to the Earth. We have mass 1 pulling on mass 2 and mass 2 pulling on mass 1.
F1 = F2. This is just wrong. The force of the balloon that pulls the Earth is not equal to the force that the Earth pulls on the balloon. It would not rise. What we see in the experiment that thehelium is rising to meet its level of density.
2) Commutitive
The mathematics of gravity is a concept called Zero Point Mass. This is a mass without a volume. This is not found in the universe. The main problem here is the reduction of 3 dimensional
densities to 0 dimensional masses. Once a density is reduces to a mass, the mass cannot be returned to the original shape of the density. So we cannot cube a zero and get anything but
another zero. This breaks the commutative properties of addition. Let’s look at some of the equations and how gravity fails at a fundamental level.
F=ma : Force equals mass times acceleration. We have a zero dimensional mass * a 2 dimensional vector and that does not equal a 3 dimensional field. So the main axiom of gravity fails the commutative test. This alone should disprove gravity.
F = G(M1*M2)/r^2 : Force = The constant of Gravity * (The zero dimensional mass 1 * The zero dimensional mass 2)/ The 3 dimensional length between them squared. So every object pulls
every other object. The dimensional problem occurs again. A constant is what is used to fill in the gaps. When things do not work the way we want them to, we just add a constant to fix the problem. When the equation no longer works, we change the constant’s value.
Physicists know about this problem. They created gravity waves and shell modeling to compensate for the dimensionless mass. But gravity is still dimensionless. The dimensionless mass cannot create a 3 dimensional shape.
We all know that gravity collapses under the scrutiny of the tiny. Quantum level objects do not show any signs of gravity. The particle accelerators prove this. They have yet to find any force that works as gravity is described.
3) Gravity fails the multi-body test.
Gravity can only compute the force between 2 objects. Any equation that uses a sum of objects fails in this way. First the two objects force is computed then the third body is computed with the
resultant of the first two bodies. Then that resultant is computed with the 4 body... That is how summation works. The problem is that the distance between object 1 and 2 is not evaluated in the next iteration.
4) Gravity and Complex Systems.
Let’s look at a hurricane that is traveling over the ocean. The spinning winds cause rotation in the ocean. The low pressure of the storm causes a bulge upward in the ocean. Heat and pressure
are two of the main variables in this system. As the temp increases it decreases the pressure of the storm, causing an increase in intensity in the storm. The heated air is forced up the eye wall.
This is an example of a temperature/pressure force on density. It is not possible for gravity to describe this system, with or without spheres.

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Apr 27 2018 07:41pm
Quote (card_sultan @ 27 Apr 2018 21:40)
vacuums are much stronger than so called gravity which is just weight really,
half the speed of light? well its 66,600mph around the sun, 500,000 mph around the milky way, 2 million mph around the great attractor + were expanding into space at 1/2 the speed of light so its faster really
The spin at the equator is not all the force gravity need to defeat - you are told only a small fraction to keep you indoctrinated

Disproof of Gravity
By Aaron Guerami, aguerami@gmail.com

The standard particle model has yet to find any evidence of Gravity. This is most concerning since gravity is used by most modern equations. Great particle accelerators have hunted for any signs of gravity. Nonefound!
There are several ways to disprove gravity.
1) Experimentally
One simple experiment shows there is no gravity. The Helium Balloon. It rises. How is this possible? Classical Mechanics shows that Force equals the Constant of Gravity multiplied by the
Mass of Object 1 multiplied by the Mass of Object 2 divided by the Distance between the two masses raised to the second power. F=GM1M2/r^2
With this logic, the mass of the Earth is so great that the helium balloon would have no choice but to be attracted to the Earth. We have mass 1 pulling on mass 2 and mass 2 pulling on mass 1.
F1 = F2. This is just wrong. The force of the balloon that pulls the Earth is not equal to the force that the Earth pulls on the balloon. It would not rise. What we see in the experiment that thehelium is rising to meet its level of density.
2) Commutitive
The mathematics of gravity is a concept called Zero Point Mass. This is a mass without a volume. This is not found in the universe. The main problem here is the reduction of 3 dimensional
densities to 0 dimensional masses. Once a density is reduces to a mass, the mass cannot be returned to the original shape of the density. So we cannot cube a zero and get anything but
another zero. This breaks the commutative properties of addition. Let’s look at some of the equations and how gravity fails at a fundamental level.
F=ma : Force equals mass times acceleration. We have a zero dimensional mass * a 2 dimensional vector and that does not equal a 3 dimensional field. So the main axiom of gravity fails the commutative test. This alone should disprove gravity.
F = G(M1*M2)/r^2 : Force = The constant of Gravity * (The zero dimensional mass 1 * The zero dimensional mass 2)/ The 3 dimensional length between them squared. So every object pulls
every other object. The dimensional problem occurs again. A constant is what is used to fill in the gaps. When things do not work the way we want them to, we just add a constant to fix the problem. When the equation no longer works, we change the constant’s value.
Physicists know about this problem. They created gravity waves and shell modeling to compensate for the dimensionless mass. But gravity is still dimensionless. The dimensionless mass cannot create a 3 dimensional shape.
We all know that gravity collapses under the scrutiny of the tiny. Quantum level objects do not show any signs of gravity. The particle accelerators prove this. They have yet to find any force that works as gravity is described.
3) Gravity fails the multi-body test.
Gravity can only compute the force between 2 objects. Any equation that uses a sum of objects fails in this way. First the two objects force is computed then the third body is computed with the
resultant of the first two bodies. Then that resultant is computed with the 4 body... That is how summation works. The problem is that the distance between object 1 and 2 is not evaluated in the next iteration.
4) Gravity and Complex Systems.
Let’s look at a hurricane that is traveling over the ocean. The spinning winds cause rotation in the ocean. The low pressure of the storm causes a bulge upward in the ocean. Heat and pressure
are two of the main variables in this system. As the temp increases it decreases the pressure of the storm, causing an increase in intensity in the storm. The heated air is forced up the eye wall.
This is an example of a temperature/pressure force on density. It is not possible for gravity to describe this system, with or without spheres.


:rofl:
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Apr 27 2018 07:41pm
Quote (card_sultan @ Apr 28 2018 12:40pm)
vacuums are much stronger than so called gravity which is just weight really,
half the speed of light? well its 66,600mph around the sun, 500,000 mph around the milky way, 2 million mph around the great attractor + were expanding into space at 1/2 the speed of light so its faster really
The spin at the equator is not all the force gravity need to defeat - you are told only a small fraction to keep you indoctrinated

Disproof of Gravity
By Aaron Guerami, aguerami@gmail.com

The standard particle model has yet to find any evidence of Gravity. This is most concerning since gravity is used by most modern equations. Great particle accelerators have hunted for any signs of gravity. Nonefound!
There are several ways to disprove gravity.
1) Experimentally
One simple experiment shows there is no gravity. The Helium Balloon. It rises. How is this possible? Classical Mechanics shows that Force equals the Constant of Gravity multiplied by the
Mass of Object 1 multiplied by the Mass of Object 2 divided by the Distance between the two masses raised to the second power. F=GM1M2/r^2
With this logic, the mass of the Earth is so great that the helium balloon would have no choice but to be attracted to the Earth. We have mass 1 pulling on mass 2 and mass 2 pulling on mass 1.
F1 = F2. This is just wrong. The force of the balloon that pulls the Earth is not equal to the force that the Earth pulls on the balloon. It would not rise. What we see in the experiment that thehelium is rising to meet its level of density.
2) Commutitive
The mathematics of gravity is a concept called Zero Point Mass. This is a mass without a volume. This is not found in the universe. The main problem here is the reduction of 3 dimensional
densities to 0 dimensional masses. Once a density is reduces to a mass, the mass cannot be returned to the original shape of the density. So we cannot cube a zero and get anything but
another zero. This breaks the commutative properties of addition. Let’s look at some of the equations and how gravity fails at a fundamental level.
F=ma : Force equals mass times acceleration. We have a zero dimensional mass * a 2 dimensional vector and that does not equal a 3 dimensional field. So the main axiom of gravity fails the commutative test. This alone should disprove gravity.
F = G(M1*M2)/r^2 : Force = The constant of Gravity * (The zero dimensional mass 1 * The zero dimensional mass 2)/ The 3 dimensional length between them squared. So every object pulls
every other object. The dimensional problem occurs again. A constant is what is used to fill in the gaps. When things do not work the way we want them to, we just add a constant to fix the problem. When the equation no longer works, we change the constant’s value.
Physicists know about this problem. They created gravity waves and shell modeling to compensate for the dimensionless mass. But gravity is still dimensionless. The dimensionless mass cannot create a 3 dimensional shape.
We all know that gravity collapses under the scrutiny of the tiny. Quantum level objects do not show any signs of gravity. The particle accelerators prove this. They have yet to find any force that works as gravity is described.
3) Gravity fails the multi-body test.
Gravity can only compute the force between 2 objects. Any equation that uses a sum of objects fails in this way. First the two objects force is computed then the third body is computed with the
resultant of the first two bodies. Then that resultant is computed with the 4 body... That is how summation works. The problem is that the distance between object 1 and 2 is not evaluated in the next iteration.
4) Gravity and Complex Systems.
Let’s look at a hurricane that is traveling over the ocean. The spinning winds cause rotation in the ocean. The low pressure of the storm causes a bulge upward in the ocean. Heat and pressure
are two of the main variables in this system. As the temp increases it decreases the pressure of the storm, causing an increase in intensity in the storm. The heated air is forced up the eye wall.
This is an example of a temperature/pressure force on density. It is not possible for gravity to describe this system, with or without spheres.

This is hilarious, i think you and him need a much greater level of education :rofl:
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