Quote (said_aouita @ Jan 9 2017 04:15pm)
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So if Einstein couldnt detect the Earth was moving, what makes you think anyone has?
2. I can just tell the video is going to be bad because he starts our strawmanning, trolling and insulting. Im sure he cant, but I can prove this shot of the ISS and a section of the earth you see all the time are fake - first off there are dual points of focus, you can't focus on something far far away while also focusing on something really really close, obviously there are two distinct image, the other proof is that there are no stars. You can see ones where there are stars but those are just even more composited.
3 . The curve does not start at the horizon, it starts from wherever you are standing.
4. you cannot cut the curve off an orange and claim the curve only starts past the horizon - this is classic Ad hoc anti logic.
5. The Horizon would be curved if the Earth were a ball based on this Fact alone. This man is not teaching you science, hes teaching you how to fool yourself.by cutting the curve off an orange and still think your on a ball /omg
6. Ship dont go over the hozizon 1) first of all you can grab some binoculars and bring the entire ship into view, 2) second when the ship goes past the horizon line - it start to be effected by the mirror line which is an inversion of perperstive and the futher a boat travels away from the hozizon - the mirror line grows and the ship is hidden behind this image. Is rather difficult to understand but here it is explained properly:
7) Flat Earther's show boats past the horizon, perhaps he watching bad videos by vsauce , but he doesn't link a specific example
Pretty sure he get his info from back of Cereal boxes or something.
8) The sun and moon do not set - I could link 100 videos that show and explain that but I doubt youll watch any, no one does.
Also the sun not changing size as it crosses the sky plane is a result of you think stuff of of how perspective works on the same plane as you and its not, think a airplane cross the sky - does it change size much - dont think so.
Also the sun does get bigger as you climb higher and he says it an illusion because of the clouds but he fail to realize that the sun and yourself are both above the clouds so how can they be affected by the clouds?
Also not a well known fact - no matter how high you build - the sun will never shine directly on a ceiling, Explain that one, ok?
9) he claims that you cant see objects past the horizon in one example - then shows you ship going over what he thinks is the curve of the earth and skylines past the "horizon' - so he;s contradicting himself in his own video /fail
Pretty much most of Heliocentric theory relies on this technique - Saying a word but then it doesn't matter if what you said before is contradicted in another example - continuous logic is for geeks.
That site - metabunk.org/curve, assumes the curve starts at the horizon - so it is wrong
Here's the actual data in a simple chart with the actual formulas that you can check

10)That Chicago skyline was photographed from a beach on the other side of the lake - i saw the complete video where he show the full view and then zoomed in. The scientific excuse is that what your are seeing is a mirage and that's not true - mirage provide an inverted image - does that look inverted
Its just more crap for you to swallow.
All in all this video is not impressive at all, im sure his other videos are just as bad.
This post was edited by card_sultan on Jan 10 2017 12:07am