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Apr 2 2018 10:27pm
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Yes. It is ridiculous. And so is getting angry over what someone who you claim to be ridiculous thinks of your salvation to the point that you dismiss everything he says as a lie. The sentence "It is not possible to be led to our Lord Jesus through a lie" is NOT a lie. It's actually completely true. I didn't say he was right about FE, I said you're both wrong.



It's completely false. You don't need to be a FE to come to Christ. That's ridiculous, and you should be ashamed for defending such logic.

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Apr 2 2018 10:28pm
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Yes. It is ridiculous. And so is getting angry over what someone who you claim to be ridiculous thinks of your salvation to the point that you dismiss everything he says as a lie. The sentence "It is not possible to be led to our Lord Jesus through a lie" is NOT a lie. It's actually completely true. I didn't say he was right, I said you're both wrong.


nononono... this discussion has nothing to do with religion... HE WANTS TO TURN IT INTO THAT...

I asked him what he wants to discuss.. converting people to Jesus... or converting people to flat earth...

he dodged the question completely and instead is trying to play the victim... saying I am judging his faith... I AM JUDGING HIS INTELLIGENCE BECAUSE GRAVITY EXISTS... and then he has the nerve to say I am attacking his faith? fuck that shit...

he is using fear tactics and it won't work
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Apr 2 2018 10:29pm
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It's completely false. You don't need to be a FE to come to Christ. That's ridiculous, and you should be ashamed for defending such logic.


I just said twice that you're both wrong. YOU should be ashamed that you're so butt-hurt you aren't even reading anything correctly.
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I just said twice that you're both wrong. YOU should be ashamed that you're so butt-hurt you aren't even reading anything correctly.


Yeah, I'm so wrong for saying he's wrong? Nice logic you have there. Keep it up, +1

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Apr 2 2018 10:31pm
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Yeah, I'm so wrong for saying he's wrong? Nice logic you have there


I also said the only way to salvation is faith in Christ. And you're telling me I'm wrong and my logic is screwed because you're so ruffled that all you wanna hear is "FE doesn't equal salvation."

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Apr 2 2018 10:33pm
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I also said the only way to salvation is faith in Christ. And you're telling me I'm wrong and my logic is screwed because you're so ruffled that all you wanna hear is "FE doesn't equal salvation."


No, because I already established when I replied to you, that there are many ways to Christ (so it's inferred that I agree with you).

But for him to say, that FE is the only way = is not okay. And you should not be attacking me for calling him out for it.

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I also said the only way to salvation is faith in Christ. And you're telling me I'm wrong and my logic is screwed because you're so ruffled that all you wanna hear is "FE doesn't equal salvation."


go back and read the conversation buddy... Chivas wants to turn this into a religious debate... ITS NOT... ITS ABOUT THE SHAPE OF THE EARTH...
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go back and read the conversation buddy... Chivas wants to turn this into a religious debate... ITS NOT... ITS ABOUT THE SHAPE OF THE EARTH...


It's funny because he can believe in his FE theories all he wants, that's fine. But now he's starting to claim that the only way to salvation is if you are a Flat Earther lol.

It's so delusional and so pathetic, and then his friends (swhat) and others start popping up out of no where defending him :rofl:
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nononono... this discussion has nothing to do with religion... HE WANTS TO TURN IT INTO THAT...

I asked him what he wants to discuss.. converting people to Jesus... or converting people to flat earth...

he dodged the question completely and instead is trying to play the victim... saying I am judging his faith... I AM JUDGING HIS INTELLIGENCE BECAUSE GRAVITY EXISTS... and then he has the nerve to say I am attacking his faith? fuck that shit...

he is using fear tactics and it won't work


I don't have time to read this entire thread or track down the actual discussion that took place however I will say this. While I don't particularly agree in the flat earth theory, it does not save or condemn anyone. When you said "It is not possible to be led to our Lord Jesus through a lie" you were correct, because God Himself told us there is only one way to salvation. Mr.Miller, however, denies that because he is irritated by you and wants to be right so he's calling everything you say a lie. Which also means he's using God to defend his own ego.. very dangerous thing to do. A Christian man should definitely know better.

I'm not saying Miller isn't a Christian or that he isn't saved, we all make mistakes. If you believe the world is shaped like a ball, a plate or a donkey's ass, though, it has nothing to do with your salvation.

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i told him to stop holding Jesus hostage at gunpoint...

because the conversation shouldn't even be about that... its about the shape of the earth and science...

I don't want to talk about Jesus to Chivas... he claims he's saved, I claim I'm saved... we're both saved... so lets stfu about it and discuss the issue at hand
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