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Aug 11 2017 01:21pm
Quote (card_sultan @ Aug 11 2017 09:15pm)
That may or may not be George lucas's belief on the model that comes from the Hebrew Bible, it is certainly a viable FE model but not the only one.


Like the geometric model you mentioned



Impossible with an infinite plain as you proposed

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Again that is a video i posted of his beliefs, of him making a joke about Bill Nye, its an obviously faked cgi clickbait cover.

Ive said it before - just because i've posted an hour long video - doesnt mean i 100% believe in a 100% of every aspect and viewpoint possible in every second of that video.

I do respect that channel and if hes allowed to believe what he wants, what was i posting that video to show because it certainly wasn't to say that is the only FE model.

Your cartoons depict FE as wandering through endless space without a dome, i dont think it moves and that it probably has a dome - could either be infinite - definity.

Is there an edge, hmm does your house have an edge or does it have walls and a roof?

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Again that is a video i posted of his beliefs, of him making a joke about Bill Nye, its an obviously faked cgi clickbait cover.

Ive said it before - just because i've posted an hour long video - doesnt mean i 100% believe in a 100% of every aspect and viewpoint possible in every second of that video.

I do respect that channel and if hes allowed to believe what he wants, what was i posting that video to show because it certainly wasn't to say that is the only FE model.

Your cartoons depict FE as wandering through endless space without a dome, i dont think it moves and that it randomly has a dome - could either be infinite - definity.

Is there an edge, hmm does your house have an edge or does it have walls and a roof?


So you not sure then.
Here's the snag. a flat earth model can not have an infinite dome, if planets and sun are said to rotate around the earth or earth and planets rotate around the sun


If the Earth is an infinite plain I take there's and indefinite amount of continents or land beyond the edge o this model?



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So you not sure then.
Here's the snag. a flat earth model can not have an infinite dome, if planets and sun are said to rotate around the earth or earth and planets rotate around the sun


If the Earth is an infinite plain I take there's and indefinite amount of continents or land beyond the edge o this model?

http://www.flatearthvideos.org/communities/7/004/013/492/017//images/4630874965.png


You're trying to get him to actually pin down his beliefs.

He won't do that. Ever.

He'll stay as vague as possible and answer no questions directly.
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If the Earth is an infinite plain I take there's and indefinite amount of continents or land beyond the edge o this model?

http://www.flatearthvideos.org/communities/7/004/013/492/017//images/4630874965.png


Yes in that model it could be endless or it could be 7 rings as described in Vedic Cosmology.

Another theory that mentioned as a possibility is the infinite puddle theory - that the plain is an infinite sheet of ice and there are countless puddles in out - Earth being one of them.

Another theory is that we are in a matrix style world and that the square peterson projection map just keep recycling though this black hole

Another theory is that the Flat Earth is actually on top of an alien cube
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You're trying to get him to actually pin down his beliefs.

He won't do that. Ever.

He'll stay as vague as possible and answer no questions directly.


There are no facts, just opinions. You believed in faked facts, i believe in infinite possibilities and not knowing. :D

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You're trying to get him to actually pin down his beliefs.

He won't do that. Ever.

I'm done with that now. Already gotten all I need to know about him

Quote (Thor123422 @ Aug 11 2017 09:42pm)
He'll stay as vague as possible and answer no questions directly.


There's now way he can answer directly without disproving his own models

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yes those are some midevil geocentric beliefs that claim the earth is a sphere, they're not even a remote possibility in anything i would endorse
as i firmly believe the belief the earth is a sphere is simply based on a wrong assumption that you are taught as fact

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yes those are some midevil geocentric beliefs that claim the earth is a sphere, they're not even a remote possibility in anything i would endorse
as i firmly belief the belief the earth is a sphere is simply based on a wrong assumption that you are taught as fact

Yet you proposed this model earlier to explain the phases of the moon

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There are no facts, just opinions. You believed in facted facts, i believe in infinite possibilities and not knowing. :D


So no proof to your beliefs then
cool. Then you continue to believe the earth is flat, I will continue to believe its a globe

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So no proof to your beliefs then


There are no facts, just opinions.
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