But if you want to split hairs the most basic "proof" of gravity is that every model is incomplete without the gravitational constant

Without such a constant all aeronautics much less vehicle suspension or anything that moves is mathematicalw impossible

Are you saying cars don't exist?


Checkmate.


Thread closed son

cars dont work because of gravity, also did not claim cars dont exist - you did

Smashed


FE proved

this helium balloon experiment that you posted right at the beginning here, was already shown in the vsauce video i showed you guys....

the balloon is being pulled down to earth, but because it's surrounded by air, the air is being pulled FASTER than the balloon and, basically the air pushes the balloon out of the way

Careful with your terms

Thermodynamics applies to the universe as a whole system therefore gravity becomes a graphical function as the change of states due to the forces we are unable to identify as the most basic constituents, some can argue we know the smallest building block but of that's the case when will validity = 100%? Never because the formula denies it by definition

In other words the entrophy of a system contains the property of gravity in some form or another, some argue the strong and weak forces are of just smaller proportion


The issue is that defining terms is arbitrty to observation and obviously observation can be arbitrary in itself

How do i know the green my eyes see = yours? Good luck trying to find the answer


Argue terms all day? No progress

Apply the scientific method? Baby steps.

So air defies gravity, but did you know the air is also spinning and orbiting and spiralling with the earth at 500,000 mph and you are just too dumb to notice it?

if F = MA and air has a mass and is moving at 500,000 mph - where is the force?

the air and the helium in the balloon are fighting eachother for it's spot to land... because the air is heavier and has MORE mass than helium... the air wins the fight and pushes the helium out of its way and what is that card?

THATS BUOYANCY CARD I THOUGHT YOU KNEW THAT

Now here I have to agree with card

Where did you show your work?

Blindly passing second hand knowledge is exactly that

However demonstrating case(n) is much more effective at making a point ;)

i don't have any paint skills to draw it out and show but its very simple, the helium is falling down right? and the air is falling down too right? but they don't fall at the same speed because they have different mass...

card was saying to me that helium floatiing upward means it couldn't have mass and therefore gravity isn't acting on the helium... which isn't the case... gravity is pulling the helium down but the air around it is being pulled faster resulting in the air pushing the helium out of its way

Are you applying the theory of everything to explain your faith in gravity or it being a thermodynamic force.

What proof do you even have that gravity is a result of thermodynamics - you know your bypassing Newtonian and Einstein gravity for pure theory so i doubt you can prove anything,