Quote (Bako661 @ Apr 30 2020 01:21am)

"The historical fact of it" :rofl: sorry, bud there is no fact.

Quote (pwb3 @ Apr 29 2020 10:27pm)

If there were undeniable proof, there would be no need for faith. The Bible clearly states that one must put his trust in Jesus Christ to be saved. To do that, you must have faith. If God revealed Himself to you (thus giving you your undeniable proof) you would have no other choice but to believe in Him. That is not faith.

Quote (Bako661 @ May 1 2020 01:45pm)

And that's exactly the tool that you're being used with, "faith". Anybody can develop a belief system based on controlling the masses, just look at how many religions exist as your proof. You can literally get ANYBODY to believe ANYTHING in the name of faith.

Quote (CPK001 @ Apr 30 2020 10:08pm)

You should read Romans 4.

Do the scriptures themselves not say "Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness."

Quote (Bako661 @ May 2 2020 05:48am)

It doesn't matter what a man made book says that was written forever ago. That isn't proof of anything... :bonk:

Quote (CPK001 @ May 1 2020 05:03pm)

2 Timothy 3:16-17 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.

Quote (CPK001 @ May 1 2020 02:03pm)

2 Timothy 3:16-17 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.

Quote (xfrodobagginsx @ 10 Jul 2019 18:27)

PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO READ THIS. IT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING YOU COULD EVER DO AND IT ONLY TAKES A FEW MINUTES

ARE YOU 100% SURE THAT IF YOU DIED TODAY THAT YOU WOULD GO TO HEAVEN?

There are some things that you should know:

1. Realize that you are a sinner and in need of a Savior:

Ro 3:23 "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;"

Ro 3:10 "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:"

It all began with the story of Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden. God created them perfect, there was no death or sorrow. God told them not to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. They disobeyed God and as a result, sin entered into the world. The pain, which this world sees, is the result of sin.

2. Because of our sins, we die both spiritually and physically, but God sent His Son to die so that you can have a chance not to have to go to hell by accepting what He did on the cross:
Ro 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."

Ro 5:8 "But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us."

Every person who has ever lived is a sinner and is not righteous because we do bad things. A sin is a crime against God, just as if you steal something at the store, it is punishable by going to jail. It's the same thing with sin. Lying, stealing, sex before marriage, pride, hatred, ect. are all sins. Hell is a prison for those who commit crimes against God. That’s because you must be perfect in order to get to heaven. No matter how well you live your life from then on, you have already sinned, which will be punished if you are not pardoned. If you commit a crime, and then live as a good citizen you still will go to jail for the crime you committed. Right? Just as the President can pardon a crime so you won't go to jail, Jesus can pardon your sins so that you do not go to hell, and can go to heaven when you die. You won’t have to pay for your own sins because Jesus already did that for you. But if you reject the pardon that He offers, you will have to pay for your own sins by going to hell.

3. If you will confess Jesus Christ as Your Lord, place your Faith in Him and Believe in your heart that He died, shed His blood and rose again as a sacrifice for your sins, you will be saved (from hell).

Eph 2:8,9 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.

Ro 10:9,10 "that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.."

You cannot get to heaven by being a good person, going to church, baptism or any other way other than by turning to Jesus, believing in your heart that He died on the cross and rose from the dead for your sins and placing your Faith in Him. While these are good things to do, some people believe that they will get to heaven, but your Faith must be in Christ and His sacrifice alone and nothing else, giving your life to Him.

Heb 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him.

Romans 3:25 "Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;"

4. You must place your Faith in Jesus Christ believing in your heart that He died and rose again shedding His blood to pay for your sins as a sacrifice to God. If you want to accept Jesus free gift of salvation, or if you have any doubts about whether or not you are going to heaven, Pray this prayer from your heart to God in Faith:

”Dear Lord Jesus I believe that You are the Lord and believe in my heart that You died on the Cross and Rose from the dead, shedding your blood for my sins. I accept Your sacrifice for my sins. I repent and turn to You as the only way of salvation, placing my Faith and Trust in You as Lord of my life, Please save me and I thank You for it, in Jesus holy name, Amen.”

If you have placed your faith in Jesus Christ and meant it with all of your heart, you are now a child of God and will go to heaven. Now that you are on your way to heaven, you should attend a bible believing church and follow in baptism.

Quote (CPK001 @ May 1 2020 02:03pm)

2 Timothy 3:16-17 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.

Quote (Bako661 @ May 1 2020 09:57pm)

Still not proof of anything. Are all religious ppl this... Dumb?

Quote (Theology @ May 2 2020 01:38am)

Throwing scripture does not open the eyes to the blind brother.
His arguement is of earthly thoughts that are as stubborn as the ground.



The proof is inside the history that has been correlated with the teachings of the bible.

People forget a few things when it comes to the histories.

1.story tellers tend to over exaggerate when telling tales. Does that make the entire story of the event false? Not at all.

2. There are artifacts and doctrine that predates some of the earliest bibles we know about. All of which share similar texts of what we know as the bible today.


As far as believing in a book written by a man years and years ago. Whether or not anything in that particular book to give actual evidence of its content. The same could be said for over 75% of most books. Especially if you are an evolutionary.

The difference of religions is very simple.
Yes some are bad and do blindly lead people astray for purpose of earthly vanity. Some religions start by 1 person trying to find their meaning for their life and not Gods meaning for their life. I do not consider these people bad by any sense. They have free will and most still end up submitting themselves to a higher power. Free will is the greatest gift friend because we get to choose to involve God in our lives or choose not to. He could of made us to just obey but He spared us from that.

Lastly believe or do not believe however some people are better off believing. You do a big discredit shaming people who do believe because without God or submitting to that higher power. Some people would steal from you and maybe intend harm to themselves or others without their morality check. Insulting ones intelligence is also not needed cause even non believers can be as dull as a brick as well.