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Sep 1 2023 02:26pm
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who exactly is claiming that "aliens dun it"? also every creationist argument I've ever read against "macro evolution" is a joke lol
there is a mountain of evidence for evolution that can only be explained away through ridiculously improbable conspiracy theories

you never heard the "aliens dun it" explanation? seriously? they make movies now selling 'panspermia idea
"macro evolution is just something you believe thats why you cant make any kind of reasoned argument to back up your 'belief. let me give you an example. RNA world hypothesis was retracted. the man that headed up the 'experiment said "we were blinded by our belief"
"The authors—one of them a Nobel Laureate—later confessed, “In retrospect, we were totally blinded by our belief” and “we were not as careful or rigorous as we should have been.”Jan 15, 2018"
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I don't think the formation of earth and the environment that life evolved in was guided by god obviously, if that's what you're asking

then its a random process
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jesus' miracles and the other supernatural events described in the bible that "prove" gods existence could have easily been fabricated, there is zero tangible evidence that these things actually happened, it's simply not an acceptable level of "proof"

if science cant explain you then by definition your a supernatural creature and hard evidence for a creator. thats why evolution "macro" is defended so bitterly
when science become religion
"We take the side of science in spite of the patent absurdity of some of its constructs, in spite of its failure to fulfill many of its extravagant promises of health and life, in spite of the tolerance of the scientific community for unsubstantiated just-so stories, because we have a prior commitment, a commitment to materialism... We cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door."
-Richard Lewontin



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Lies.

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Sep 1 2023 02:36pm
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if science cant explain you then by definition your a supernatural creature and hard evidence for a creator. thats why evolution "macro" is defended so bitterly
when science become religion
"We take the side of science in spite of the patent absurdity of some of its constructs, in spite of its failure to fulfill many of its extravagant promises of health and life, in spite of the tolerance of the scientific community for unsubstantiated just-so stories, because we have a prior commitment, a commitment to materialism... We cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door."
-Richard Lewontin




arrogance of 'atheism


try again
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when you find out your a religious kook :)

"We take the side of science in spite of the patent absurdity of some of its constructs, in spite of its failure to fulfill many of its extravagant promises of health and life, in spite of the tolerance of the scientific community for unsubstantiated just-so stories, because we have a prior commitment, a commitment to materialism... We cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door."
-Richard Lewontin
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bump great thread it must be bumoped daily
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Bump you daily
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Bump you daily


Thanks and God bless.
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Thanks and God bless.
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jesus tapdancing christ this thread is still open
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Quote (TiStuff @ Sep 2 2023 06:26am)
you never heard the "aliens dun it" explanation? seriously? they make movies now selling 'panspermia idea


I don't think Panspermia is the mainstream position and I'm pretty sure the researchers who subscribe to it just think that abiogenesis occurred elsewhere

Quote (TiStuff @ Sep 2 2023 06:26am)
"macro evolution is just something you believe thats why you cant make any kind of reasoned argument to back up your 'belief. let me give you an example. RNA world hypothesis was retracted. the man that headed up the 'experiment said "we were blinded by our belief"
"The authors—one of them a Nobel Laureate—later confessed, “In retrospect, we were totally blinded by our belief” and “we were not as careful or rigorous as we should have been.”Jan 15, 2018"




What exactly do you need explained to you about evolution? Do you not understand the general concepts and processes involved? Are you not aware of the evidence supporting it?

Also you're misrepresenting that quote. The RNA world hypothesis was not abandoned, a specific paper purporting to provide evidence for the RNA world hypothesis was retracted by the authors after another researcher failed to replicate their results and called them out on their misinterpretation of the data. Is this supposed to reduce my confidence in mainstream scientific support for evolution?

Quote (TiStuff @ Sep 2 2023 06:26am)
if science cant explain you then by definition your a supernatural creature and hard evidence for a creator. thats why evolution "macro" is defended so bitterly
when science become religion
"We take the side of science in spite of the patent absurdity of some of its constructs, in spite of its failure to fulfill many of its extravagant promises of health and life, in spite of the tolerance of the scientific community for unsubstantiated just-so stories, because we have a prior commitment, a commitment to materialism... We cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door."
-Richard Lewontin


No, hard evidence is hard evidence. If science can't currently explain everything about how life came into existence then all this is hard evidence for is the fact that we don't completely understand how life came into existence. Also, Retarded quote. Organised religions like Christianity are the ultimate "unsubstantiated just-so stories", if you honestly think that belief in evolution requires comparable levels of levels of faith/trust then you are either not honest with yourself or lacking in any understanding of the scientific method

and please for the love of god learn to use the quote function properly, it's really not hard to figure out
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I don't think Panspermia is the mainstream position and I'm pretty sure the researchers who subscribe to it just think that abiogenesis occurred elsewhere



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What exactly do you need explained to you about evolution? Do you not understand the general concepts and processes involved? Are you not aware of the evidence supporting it?

Also you're misrepresenting that quote. The RNA world hypothesis was not abandoned, a specific paper purporting to provide evidence for the RNA world hypothesis was retracted by the authors after another researcher failed to replicate their results and called them out on their misinterpretation of the data. Is this supposed to reduce my confidence in mainstream scientific support for evolution?



No, hard evidence is hard evidence. If science can't currently explain everything about how life came into existence then all this is hard evidence for is the fact that we don't completely understand how life came into existence. Also, Retarded quote. Organised religions like Christianity are the ultimate "unsubstantiated just-so stories", if you honestly think that belief in evolution requires comparable levels of levels of faith/trust then you are either not honest with yourself or lacking in any understanding of the scientific method

and please for the love of god learn to use the quote function properly, it's really not hard to figure out


that gif bolster your confidence

i didnt say anyone said it was abandoned thats typical of a lying monkey man people making up chit like they made up chit in the "RNA world hypothesis"

" If science can't currently explain everything about how life came into existence then all this is hard evidence for is the fact that we don't completely understand how life came into existence. "
ah, nice admission
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