Quote (xfrodobagginsx @ 23 Aug 2023 20:51)
The next question I would pose to an evolutionist/naturalist is whether he considers himself moral. If you uphold yourself to any moral purpose whatsoever, you fail to live up to your worldview. As an evolutionist, you should act purely out of utility. Survival is your main goal. Of course none of this makes human experience intelligible given the fact that no one acts this way.
If you disagree with this theory, I ask you, do you steal from the blind? Survival of the fittest right? Would you steal from the blind if it were legal? Many atheists, evolutionists, naturalists, etc wouldn't. Because they are good moral people. They, however, don't live up to the obligation of the way they see the world. You aren't living up to your duty of primal survival. You are actually capable of things totally independent of natural selection, like love...even for those who have no impact on your life. Every dollar you give to the homeless, and every hour you volunteer, you do not out of utility, but out of love. Your goodness causes you to fail to live up to your worldview.
The law of thermodynamics and conservation of energy says that matter cannot be created NOR destroyed, yet matter exists. So, according to scientific law, it is impossible for anything to exist, yet it DOES exist. That is proof that God, who has power over scientific law made it. God created the matter from NOTHING as the bible says. When the bible was written, they knew nothing about the law of thermodynamics or conservation of energy, yet God DID.
But according to scientific law, the matter cannot be created nor destroyed so it's illogical to believe that it exists on it's own because according to science, it is IMPOSSIBLE for it to exist.
Where did it come from?
Ethics are not tied to evolution they are tied to personal experiences and emotions.
The argument you make is also nonsensical. If I steal from people then people won't like me. People might even steal from me, or worse. How is that an advantage? Stealing isn't automatically advantageous, it is only advantageous if you get away with it completely and consistently, or if society values stealing so successfully stealing enhances my reputation instead of tarring it.
It's kinda sad how many theists need a magic sky daddy to be a good person. Atheists see the value in being a good person and don't need fairy tales to force it on them. The fact is that theists are the ones without morals.
The law of conservation of energy has a loop hole you're apparently unaware of. Matter CAN be created, provided you create an equal amount of anti matter simultaneously. This is a well established quirk of quantum mechanics. As usuall, the theist doesn't know what they're talking about.
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