Quote (Vastet @ 13 Aug 2023 01:43)

No atheism is simply a lack of belief in god. Agnosticism is the position one doesn't or cannot know whether or not there is a god. You say you know these terms but you quite clearly do not.

Quote (xfrodobagginsx @ 11 Jul 2019 04:27)

PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO READ THIS. IT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING YOU COULD EVER DO AND IT ONLY TAKES A FEW MINUTES

ARE YOU 100% SURE THAT IF YOU DIED TODAY THAT YOU WOULD GO TO HEAVEN?

There are some things that you should know:

1. Realize that you are a sinner and in need of a Savior:

Ro 3:23 "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;"

Ro 3:10 "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:"

It all began with the story of Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden. God created them perfect, there was no death or sorrow. God told them not to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. They disobeyed God and as a result, sin entered into the world. The pain, which this world sees, is the result of sin.

2. Because of our sins, we die both spiritually and physically, but God sent His Son to die so that you can have a chance not to have to go to hell by accepting what He did on the cross:
Ro 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."

Ro 5:8 "But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us."

Every person who has ever lived is a sinner and is not righteous because we do bad things. A sin is a crime against God, just as if you steal something at the store, it is punishable by going to jail. It's the same thing with sin. Lying, stealing, sex before marriage, pride, hatred, ect. are all sins. Hell is a prison for those who commit crimes against God. That’s because you must be perfect in order to get to heaven. No matter how well you live your life from then on, you have already sinned, which will be punished if you are not pardoned. If you commit a crime, and then live as a good citizen you still will go to jail for the crime you committed. Right? Just as the President can pardon a crime so you won't go to jail, Jesus can pardon your sins so that you do not go to hell, and can go to heaven when you die. You won’t have to pay for your own sins because Jesus already did that for you. But if you reject the pardon that He offers, you will have to pay for your own sins by going to hell.

3. If you will confess Jesus Christ as Your Lord, place your Faith in Him and Believe in your heart that He died, shed His blood and rose again as a sacrifice for your sins, you will be saved (from hell).

Eph 2:8,9 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.

Ro 10:9,10 "that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.."

You cannot get to heaven by being a good person, going to church, baptism or any other way other than by turning to Jesus, believing in your heart that He died on the cross and rose from the dead for your sins and placing your Faith in Him. While these are good things to do, some people believe that they will get to heaven, but your Faith must be in Christ and His sacrifice alone and nothing else, giving your life to Him.

Heb 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him.

Romans 3:25 "Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;"

4. You must place your Faith in Jesus Christ believing in your heart that He died and rose again shedding His blood to pay for your sins as a sacrifice to God. If you want to accept Jesus free gift of salvation, or if you have any doubts about whether or not you are going to heaven, Pray this prayer from your heart to God in Faith:

”Dear Lord Jesus I believe that You are the Lord and believe in my heart that You died on the Cross and Rose from the dead, shedding your blood for my sins. I accept Your sacrifice for my sins. I repent and turn to You as the only way of salvation, placing my Faith and Trust in You as Lord of my life, Please save me and I thank You for it, in Jesus holy name, Amen.”

If you have placed your faith in Jesus Christ and meant it with all of your heart, you are now a child of God and will go to heaven. Now that you are on your way to heaven, you should attend a bible believing church and follow in baptism.

Quote (death_knight @ 13 Aug 2023 06:24)

Theism and atheism are gnostic principles while agnosticism is agnostic. In other words, the first two are declarations while agnostic is a proposition.

If you say you lack belief in God, this demands an explanation. If you say 'there is no proof', then you are atheist because you have declared you have reviewed and calculated all the data. On the other hand, you are agnostic if you say "there is no proof that can be shown to be valid" because you are proposing that you are unable to make a declaration.

A statement like "lack a belief in God" is an open context. I could say that even Jews are atheist because they lack a belief in the God(s) of other religions.. see my point?

Quote (TiStuff @ 13 Aug 2023 03:59)

the worse the quality fossil the more magical morphing you can get out of it

Quote (Vastet @ Aug 14 2023 02:36am)

Only theists believe in morphing animals.

Quote (TiStuff @ 14 Aug 2023 05:48)

exists only in the wild atheist/antitheist imagination, magical morphing monkeys
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Quote (Vastet @ 14 Aug 2023 03:36)

Wrong. Theism is the belief in a god. Atheism is the lack of belief in a god. Gnosticism is the position something is or can be known. Agnosticism is the position something is not or can not be known. Learn your terminology.

Quote (death_knight @ 14 Aug 2023 06:08)

Then how do you differentiate a lack in belief vs a denial? You are reasonably arguing semantics with me but I think we are talking about the same thing. It follows from your definitions that all agnostics are atheist. The problem with this definition is the most people describe atheism as the denial of God. This presents the technical problem I mentioned earlier about agreeing on definitions.

Quote (Vastet @ Aug 14 2023 02:55am)

Monkey boy doesn't understand evolution and morphing are 2 very different things.