Quote (addone @ Jul 7 2023 12:32pm)

All the "commandments" were realised many centuries prior to Christianity was conceived. It just took all the current school of thought and packaged it that was appealing to the masses. It's the Apple of religious silicon valley a middle eastern offshoot. There are virtually thousands of other religions out there who could of taken that spot.

I suppose you could look at religion as a useful tool. Certainly one for controlling the masses to be obedient sheep. But you are thinking in terms satisfying some deep, philosophical, spiritual yearning.

Well if you were to think of it like an electric shock therapy or a large stick to beat some mongoloid tribals into stop being cannibals or not try to rape and pillage each other then sure it's useful.

In today's day and age it's an intellectual torture mechanism or spiritual cheetos dipped in grease. To stop thinking and just believe...

Quote (Nirjan @ 7 Jul 2023 00:26)

yeah lol i noticed that too, some people almost go out of their way to try discredit religion
the scary thing is alot of people who say they dont believe actually hate God and blame God for the bad things in their life
even non believers curse God and trust me that is not a smart thing to do

Quote (CPK001 @ Jul 7 2023 09:46pm)

I'm interested to hear your thoughts on this:

"Taliban Restrictions on Women’s Rights Deepen Afghanistan’s Crisis
The Taliban have barred women from universities and many workplaces, compelling several aid organisations to pause operations in Afghanistan and donors to contemplate cuts to assistance. Yet the principled response remains to mitigate the harm these harsh rulings are doing to the most vulnerable Afghans.

What’s new? The Taliban have ordered the most sweeping rollbacks of women’s rights since retaking power in 2021, part of a series of escalating moves to enforce the group’s heterodox conservatism. Girls and women are losing access to education, employment and public spaces as well as other basic freedoms."

https://www.crisisgroup.org/asia/south-asia/afghanistan/329-taliban-restrictions-womens-rights-deepen-afghanistans-crisis

Quote (death_knight @ Jul 7 2023 02:56am)

I think a lot of people have good reason to discredit religion. I recommend the autobiography of Carl Panzram as an example of how an abused child turned into a serial killer. He remarks that his desire is basically to get revenge on God by killing and hurting as many innocent as possible. It is extremely relevant because no one knows how he would have turned out if he not been indoctrinated. It is very clear from his writing however that he is extremely bitter and resentful.

Quote (CPK001 @ Jul 7 2023 02:46am)

I'm interested to hear your thoughts on this:

"Taliban Restrictions on Women’s Rights Deepen Afghanistan’s Crisis
The Taliban have barred women from universities and many workplaces, compelling several aid organisations to pause operations in Afghanistan and donors to contemplate cuts to assistance. Yet the principled response remains to mitigate the harm these harsh rulings are doing to the most vulnerable Afghans.

What’s new? The Taliban have ordered the most sweeping rollbacks of women’s rights since retaking power in 2021, part of a series of escalating moves to enforce the group’s heterodox conservatism. Girls and women are losing access to education, employment and public spaces as well as other basic freedoms."

https://www.crisisgroup.org/asia/south-asia/afghanistan/329-taliban-restrictions-womens-rights-deepen-afghanistans-crisis

Quote (TiStuff @ Jul 7 2023 08:30am)

the rise of atheism/antitheism has been nothing but a horror show
Atheist Governments of the 20th Century: The Death Toll of Godless Goodness
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/publiccatholic/2013/03/atheist-governments-of-the-20th-century-the-death-toll-of-godless-goodness/

Mao Ze-Dong (China, 1958-61 and 1966-69, Tibet 1949-50) 49-78,000,00 people murdered

Jozef Stalin (USSR 1932-39 only) 15,000,000 people murdered

Pol Pot (Cambodia, 1975-79) 1,700,000 people murdered

Kim II Sung (North Korea 1948-94) 1.6 million people murdered

Tito (Yugoslavia 1945-1987) 570,000 people murdered

Suharto (Communists 1967-66) 500,000 people murdered

Ante Pavelic (Croatia 1941-45) 359,000 people murdered

Ho Chi Min (Vietnam 1953-56) 200,000 people murdered

Vladimir Ilich Lenin (USSR, 1917-20) 30,000 people murdered

Adolf Hitler (Germany 1939-1945) 12,000,000 people murdered

Quote (TiStuff @ 7 Jul 2023 09:30)

the rise of atheism/antitheism has been nothing but a horror show
Atheist Governments of the 20th Century: The Death Toll of Godless Goodness
[URL]https://www.patheos.com/blogs/publiccatholic/2013/03/atheist-governments-of-the-20th-century-the-death-toll-of-godless-goodness/[/URL]

Mao Ze-Dong (China, 1958-61 and 1966-69, Tibet 1949-50) 49-78,000,00 people murdered

Jozef Stalin (USSR 1932-39 only) 15,000,000 people murdered

Pol Pot (Cambodia, 1975-79) 1,700,000 people murdered

Kim II Sung (North Korea 1948-94) 1.6 million people murdered

Tito (Yugoslavia 1945-1987) 570,000 people murdered

Suharto (Communists 1967-66) 500,000 people murdered

Ante Pavelic (Croatia 1941-45) 359,000 people murdered

Ho Chi Min (Vietnam 1953-56) 200,000 people murdered

Vladimir Ilich Lenin (USSR, 1917-20) 30,000 people murdered

Adolf Hitler (Germany 1939-1945) 12,000,000 people murdered

Quote (death_knight @ Jul 6 2023 10:52pm)

I've been agnostic all my life.

Quote (death_knight @ Jul 7 2023 01:01pm)

I don't think you can call all these anti-theist. Radical right and radical left is more appropriate. You are juxtaposing in a way that implies all secular forms of government are inherently evil. With the data above, I don't think that case can be made because many millions suffered at the hands of Christians.

If you look at the table here in the page below, you will see Christianity is the major religion among Nazi's leading up to the holocaust. Catholicism is second. This is clear evidence imo that there were many highly religious Nazi's. Some of this is reflected in their doctrine as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Nazi_Germany

Quote (net @ Jul 7 2023 01:04am)

"What dat is? What heaven be?"

Quote (xfrodobagginsx @ Jul 7 2023 10:25pm)

Huh?