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Mar 22 2022 10:51am
Quote (TiStuff @ 22 Mar 2022 10:05)
thats rather convenient dont you think. to make the demand that the bible must be excluded? when and where do you draw the line excluding things instead of contesting with them?

perhaps we need a starting point? lets start with this remark you made.
"... I see no difference between a human and a moose or a human and a bacteria..."
i suppose one could take this view if one believed in evolution "macro" aka "monkey to man" aka "goo to the zoo to you"
that the whole thing/place is one big giant random accident?
is this what you believe?


First, I prefer to exclude the Bible because it's a dead end for me (has resulted in confusion, conjecture and pseudoscience). I am not completely unwilling to read the bible though I think it's fair to say "Show me evidence #2 unrelated to #1 (a book)".

Second, in reply to the 'monkey to man': Genetically speaking, Darwinism appears to be correct as it complies with the scientific method. Every living thing shares core DNA and this lineage can be traced back to the Greatest Common Ancestor. This implies we co-evolved with every other organism alive today and is apprent in our physical makeup (symmetry, organ placement and behavior). Does this qualify as proof in my eyes? No because there is still much to learn of chemistry and genetics. However as it agrees with scientific method it stands to reason that any other theory must meet or exceed the same criteria (time investigating and the provided results of engineers and scientists). I have yet to observe a single "religious scientist" that follows the same scrutiny as the rest of accepted science. So in the context of Darwinism, your bible is not evidence for anything because it does not follow the same scrutiny nor does it cite quantifiable facts the same as an academic paper driven by the scientific method (Theory, Experiment, Observe, Conclude, Repeat, Theory, Experiment etc.). Science (learning) is not a conclusive art rather it is a life long process subject to constant updates in what we know and what we think we know. Obviously this is a complete contrast to people who "know" God exists and "know" what happens after we die. By any other measure, the knowledge of the above sentence is generally agreed by academics to be beyond our capabilities of measurement and so falls in the category of conjecture and/or pseudoscience.
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Mar 22 2022 11:09am
Believe in yourself, no god(s) needed.
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Mar 22 2022 11:16am
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Believe in yourself, no god(s) needed.
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You're giving a commandment to do something, wonder where that came from:
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Mar 22 2022 11:24am
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You're giving a commandment to do something, wonder where that came from:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bIVejW5AvI


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Didn't the Jews kill Christ, why are you posting Jewish rap?

This post was edited by lolkggz on Mar 22 2022 11:35am
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Mar 22 2022 11:31am
The only commandments you need homie.


Do not give opinions or advice unless you are asked.
Do not tell your troubles to others unless you are sure they want to hear them.
When in another’s lair, show him respect or else do not go there.
If a guest in your lair annoys you, treat him cruelly and without mercy.
Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal.
Do not take that which does not belong to you unless it is a burden to the other person and he cries out to be relieved.
Acknowledge the power of magic if you have employed it successfully to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained.
Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself.
Do not harm little children.
Do not kill non-human animals unless you are attacked or for your food.
When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask him to stop. If he does not stop, destroy him.

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Maybe Christianity can learn some of the bolded ones.

This post was edited by lolkggz on Mar 22 2022 11:34am
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Mar 22 2022 11:39am
Quote (lolkggz @ Mar 22 2022 10:31am)
The only commandments you need homie.


Do not give opinions or advice unless you are asked.
Do not tell your troubles to others unless you are sure they want to hear them.
When in another’s lair, show him respect or else do not go there.
If a guest in your lair annoys you, treat him cruelly and without mercy.
Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal.
Do not take that which does not belong to you unless it is a burden to the other person and he cries out to be relieved.
Acknowledge the power of magic if you have employed it successfully to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained.
Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself.
Do not harm little children.
Do not kill non-human animals unless you are attacked or for your food.
When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask him to stop. If he does not stop, destroy him.

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Maybe Christianity can learn some of the bolded ones.


maybe you would like to school the christian using scripture to back up your accusations.........
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Mar 22 2022 11:40am
Quote (TiStuff @ Mar 22 2022 12:39pm)
maybe you would like to school the christian using scripture to back up your accusations.........


Do you follow both the old and new testament?
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Mar 22 2022 11:56am
Quote (lolkggz @ Mar 22 2022 09:24am)
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Didn't the Jews kill Christ, why are you posting Jewish rap?


No. the spirit of evil that worketh iniquity through unbelievers did.



This post was edited by lodd222 on Mar 22 2022 11:57am
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Quote (lodd222 @ Mar 22 2022 12:56pm)
No. the spirit of evil that workith through unbelievers did.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9E6hE_LpYpY


Didn't god murder around ~2 million?
The self proclaimed omnipotent made an oopsie and couldn't handle it?
Sounds like a god I wanna follow.
A murderous, self proclaimed alpha omega.

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