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Dec 11 2017 12:04pm
Quote (Zeronim0 @ Dec 11 2017 02:49am)

Now wondering what if someone want to travel from A to B ... - https://i.imgur.com/wxWddvm.gif

and find out that the shorten path is going through the Antarctica ?


The flight from A to B cannot be accomplished by any existing aircraft on a flat earth. If the earth really is flat, then no commercial jet can fly fast enough or carry enough fuel for that journey.
You can buy the ticket here: https://www.farecompare.com/flights/Santiago-SCL/Sydney-SYD/market.html#quote?quoteKey=CSCLCSYD20180102R20180109P1CTF
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Quote (card_sultan @ Dec 11 2017 11:56am)
nice word pasta of circular logic, are you fatten up on carbs?


nothing about that logic is circular, the fact that you missed the distinction exemplifies it. so thank you.

"word pasta"...."are you fatten up on carbs"

being ironic twice in one post.
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You and ChivasRegal have both used the perspective planes theory as an explanation for why distant objects disappear from view. All I am saying is that this theory is incorrect, regardless of whether it's used in 3D emulations or not.



I didn't "convince myself" of anything; I can use proper math to predict the size and visibility of any object when taking its location and the viewer's location into account. Best of all: these calculations work when you take the curvature into account, but do not work when you assume that Earth is flat.



Why would video games need to take the curvature into account? They just model a flat world, do not render objects beyond a certain distance, and the result is a world that looks real enough to be playable.


no i use irl 3d perspective - you're equating that to an opengl computer 2d projection - so a false equivalency to equate your 2d understanding with 2d on a computer

Ships dont disappear beyond the horizon, if you still believe they do you're either just trolling or not very smart

Video games cant be based on assumed curvature because there is no curvature IRL and computers cant be taught to think stupid like humans can.

You also dodged my question, keep dodging

Quote (russian @ Dec 11 2017 08:04am)
The flight from A to B cannot be accomplished by any existing aircraft on a flat earth. If the earth really is flat, then no commercial jet can fly fast enough or carry enough fuel for that journey.
You can buy the ticket here: https://www.farecompare.com/flights/Santiago-SCL/Sydney-SYD/market.html#quote?quoteKey=CSCLCSYD20180102R20180109P1CTF


yes it called Jet steams

https://youtu.be/MQZi7nZrUbA


Quote (thesnipa @ Dec 11 2017 08:05am)
nothing about that logic is circular, the fact that you missed the distinction exemplifies it. so thank you.

"word pasta"...."are you fatten up on carbs"

being ironic twice in one post.


nothing you said in that post made any sense

like x y z having to do with physics

:wacko:

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Dec 11 2017 12:16pm
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Video games cant be based on assumed curvature because there is no curvature IRL and computers cant be taught to think stupid like humans can.


Video games use a strict x,y,z coordinate mapping system for ease of programming, it's not in any way a reflection of the viability of either the flat or round earth models.

I'm not sure why you're even stressing this, it's an apples to oranges comparison.
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Quote (thesnipa @ Dec 11 2017 08:16am)
Video games use a strict x,y,z coordinate mapping system for ease of programming, it's not in any way a reflection of the viability of either the flat or round earth models.

I'm not sure why you're even stressing this, it's an apples to oranges comparison.


x y z have to do with actual 3d perspective , your 2d understanding of 3d space is a misnomer

show me a picture that you think explain what the horizon is - i bet it'll be 2d - 100%

Leevee said 2d projection of 3d space in Computers prove FE is wrong when it actually confirms it correct , while you claim it is a non factor

Computers are hiding the curve right?

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Dec 11 2017 12:38pm
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yes it called Jet steams

https://youtu.be/MQZi7nZrUbA



Ah yes, the magical jet streams that somehow work in both directions at once and that every commercial pilot must be careful to either use or avoid depending on which route he's flying, to make sure he doesn't reveal the conspiracy to the passengers.

I wonder how strict the reptilian overlords are about the jet stream use. If a pilot is flying a plane with no passengers, is he allowed to use a jet stream to cut his travel time in half on a route where you normally wouldn't be allowed to use it?
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Dec 11 2017 12:42pm
Quote (card_sultan @ Dec 10 2017 02:01pm)
Sorry Flat Earth is not a relegion, it is a Cosmological believe and a paradigm shift

you are just simply

:wacko:

to stay in your HelioCult.

But it nice that you're opening your eyes that the spinning ball rocket earth is just Religion disguised as Science.


Except for the part where it is. That whole thing about believing something is true without any proof means you take it on FAITH.
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Quote (card_sultan @ Dec 11 2017 11:30am)
x y z have to do with actual 3d perspective , your 2d understanding of 3d space is a misnomer

show me a picture that you think explain what the horizon is - i bet it'll be 2d - 100%

Leevee said 2d projection of 3d space in Computers prove FE is wrong when it actually confirms it correct , while you claim it is a non factor

Computers are hiding the curve right?

:wacko:


Looking at a basketball in real life would instantly demonstrate a horizon. That's the amount of effort required to prove that a horizon exists on a spherical object.
For how much research you claim to have done, it's amazing that you are incapable of picking up the closest spherical object and looking at it.
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Dec 11 2017 12:44pm
Quote (card_sultan @ Dec 11 2017 12:30pm)
Leevee said 2d projection of 3d space in Computers prove FE is wrong when it actually confirms it correct , while you claim it is a non factor

Computers are hiding the curve right?


you were talking about video games, now it's "3d space in computers"?

Video games are made in a pure x,y,z coordinate mapping model because it makes coding them significantly easier and it doesnt effect gameplay in any video game. For example: why would the Madden programmers add a quart of an inch of curve to the football field? it would make programming coordinates that much more difficult, and would serve zero purpose.

now if you're talking about drawing a sphere the size of the earth then zooming into the surface with your view and testing to see if objects of different sizes disappear over the horizon Leevee is of course correct.

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Quote (russian @ Dec 11 2017 08:38am)
Ah yes, the magical jet streams that somehow work in both directions at once and that every commercial pilot must be careful to either use or avoid depending on which route he's flying, to make sure he doesn't reveal the conspiracy to the passengers.

I wonder how strict the reptilian overlords are about the jet stream use. If a pilot is flying a plane with no passengers, is he allowed to use a jet stream to cut his travel time in half on a route where you normally wouldn't be allowed to use it?


first that flight is advertising but it rarely flies, flight are 2-3 transfers usually, it takes 5 hours longer to fly one way than it does the other, i didn't make up jet streams - look it up, it seems your limited to do 3 seconds of research to think you understand something when you clearly dont.

Commercial Planes flying with no passengers - doubt that would ever happen bu plane do not fly whichever flight route they choose - air space and paths are controlled - why dont you research into who controls it - think your in for a shock.

If a hot air balloon is said to travel with air and direction of the spin (at the equtor is 1000 mph to the east) than an airplane travelling to the west would need to resist the force of 1000 mph winds - so to go 500 mph they would really be going 1500 mph

:wacko:

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