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Feb 25 2017 11:11pm
Quote (AssButt @ Feb 26 2017 02:29pm)
How dumb does one have to be to realize that you will not see a curve on the horizon due to how large the earth is in comparison?


see post #2331
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Feb 25 2017 11:11pm
@sultan i made this very basic example of why light comes at an angle in paint.exe

stick man = you (not to scale, a small american state is like 1 pixel)
big blue dot = earth
white line = perception
yellow = direction of light from the sun super far away
distance of the sun to scale in pixels (the moon is 1 pixel) = http://joshworth.com/dev/pixelspace/pixelspace_solarsystem.html

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Feb 25 2017 11:13pm
Quote (Metalkon @ Feb 26 2017 12:11am)
@sultan i made this very basic example of why light comes at an angle in paint.exe

stick man = you (not to scale, a small american state is like 1 pixel)
big blue dot = earth
white line = perception
yellow = direction of light from the sun super far away
distance of the sun to scale in pixels (the moon is 1 pixel) = http://joshworth.com/dev/pixelspace/pixelspace_solarsystem.html

https://puu.sh/ukcEl/ba82ffbe35.png



Going to have to agree with this. Let's wait and see what fantasy he can pull out of thin air to try and refute this.
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Feb 25 2017 11:23pm
if the moonlanding was false

wat more is false 2,
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Quote (Metalkon @ Feb 25 2017 07:11pm)
@sultan i made this very basic example of why light comes at an angle in paint.exe

stick man = you (not to scale, a small american state is like 1 pixel)
big blue dot = earth
white line = perception
yellow = direction of light from the sun super far away
distance of the sun to scale in pixels (the moon is 1 pixel) = http://joshworth.com/dev/pixelspace/pixelspace_solarsystem.html

https://puu.sh/ukcEl/ba82ffbe35.png


ya see, this is the problem with all ball earthers thinking - you think in 2 dimension on a side view. Reality is 3 dimensions.

You're trying to explain a single angle of view but your view is actually like 160 degrees.

Think of your drawing 160x , and you get the curve - which should be their - but is not.

Earth is a flat plane inside the round dome, perhaps you will realize this when you unlearn all the garbage you were taught as a child.

This post was edited by card_sultan on Feb 25 2017 11:49pm
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Quote (tard_sultan @ Feb 25 2017 10:04pm)
yeah its not - he obviously doesn't understand perspective and just misuses to claim he does, part of his confirmation bias to not know hes a dummy.


No, he understands perspective whereas you do not, and he demonstrated at much.

But allow me:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crepuscular_rays

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Crepuscular rays /krᵻˈpʌskjᵿlər/ (also known as sunbeams, Angel lights[citation needed], Sun rays or God rays), in atmospheric optics, are rays of sunlight that appear to radiate from the point in the sky where the sun is located. These rays, which stream through gaps in clouds (particularly stratocumulus) or between other objects, are columns of sunlit air separated by darker cloud-shadowed regions. Despite seeming to converge at a point, the rays are in fact near-parallel shafts of sunlight, and their apparent convergence is a perspective effect (similar, for example, to the way that parallel railway lines seem to converge at a point in the distance).

The name comes from their frequent occurrences during twilight hours (those around dawn and dusk), when the contrasts between light and dark are the most obvious. Crepuscular comes from the Latin word "crepusculum", meaning twilight.


Note where it mentions twilight. Where the sun's light isn't coming in vertically, but at a sharp angle.

So when you went to great lengths to write another lie about physics with the following:

Quote (tard_sultan @ Feb 25 2017 10:41pm)
More proof the Crepuscular rays being divergent is not due to perspective:

Horizon lines converge
Vertical lines dont

http://i65.tinypic.com/2uo54k2.jpg

If the sun was really 93 million miles away and the light arrived here on earth completely parallel - the light rays should be seen completely parallel

perspective will not splay out things that are oriented perpendicular to your plane,
The other explanation say that light rays diverge because of the atmosphere and the debate is whether the atmosphere in the Helio Model is
1. )( = Concave
2. () = Convex
but I think it mostly resemble what is called a meniscus or (( <------like that
So from wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lens_(optics)
Convex-concave (meniscus) lenses can be either positive or negative, depending on the relative curvatures of the two surfaces. A negative meniscus lens has a steeper concave surface and is thinner at the centre than at the periphery. Conversely, a positive meniscus lens has a steeper convex surface and is thicker at the centre than at the periphery. An ideal thin lens with "two surfaces of equal curvature" would have zero optical power, meaning that it would neither converge nor diverge light.
If the sun is really 93 million miles away and light rays arrive on Earth completely parallel, and you dont have perspective or light refraction to explain how light rays are divergent:

Sun worship busted yet again.


...know that you got caught in peddling your bullshit again.

Pro tip: the atmosphere of a curved Earth refracts light.

This post was edited by Santara on Feb 26 2017 12:53am
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Quote (Santara @ Feb 25 2017 08:41pm)
No, he understands perspective whereas you do not, and he demonstrated at much.

But allow me:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crepuscular_rays



Note where it mentions twilight. Where the sun's light isn't coming in vertically, but at a sharp angle.

So when you went to great lengths to write another lie about physics with the following:



...know that you got caught in peddling your bullshit again.

Pro tip: the atmosphere of a curved Earth refracts light.


Crepuscular rays just don't happen at twilight, the rays are not an "illusion".

If you can explain why the "atmosphere" is not simply a meniscus lense then feel free to do so, but refraction and/or Sun angle have nothing to do with crepuscular rays.

Do you understand horizontal lines converge, vertical lines dont - so saying "perspective" as a reason means you dont understand that very basic point.

pretty much you dont understand anything, no wonder you're so angry.

our whole argument is "Don't believe your eyes, have faith that Astro Science will not Lie"

you were made eternally blind, change is impossible for you.

This post was edited by card_sultan on Feb 26 2017 01:10am
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Quote (tard_sultan @ Feb 26 2017 01:04am)
I ignored a perfectly good definition that included the notation "line are near parallel" to continue my charade.


Yes. Yes you did.
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Quote (tard_sultan @ Feb 26 2017 01:04am)
our whole argument is "Don't believe your eyes, have faith that Astro Science will not Lie"

you were made eternally blind, change is impossible for you.


@ your edit: comedy gold, coming from someone who calls the untold number of photos of the ball Earth lies.
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