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Feb 8 2017 04:09pm
Quote (card_sultan @ Feb 7 2017 10:42pm)
1. Get a globe
2. Try to find the flat horizon
3. Realize you were a crazy fool to believe Helio worship.

Easy, but of course you wont do it, and will find a way to dance around your blindness. :wacko:


There is no conspiracy to understanding why things disappear beyond the horizon - its called the vanishing point and it is where the earth plane meets the sky plane, and to understand it you need to have a basic understanding of the 3 dimensions of space you live in. Trying to think in 2 dimensions is for idiots.


you do realize that relative size plays into the flat horizon right? looking at a globe you will not see a flat horizon because you re much larger then then globe there for the curve is noticeable you cant notice it on earth because the earth is so much larger then you that you arent able to see the curve
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Feb 8 2017 04:21pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Feb 7 2017 02:59pm)
How fast is the plane moving from the perspective of somebody moving at the same speed and direction of the air?


hmmmmm
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Quote (Gratuitous @ Feb 8 2017 04:09pm)
you do realize that relative size plays into the flat horizon right? looking at a globe you will not see a flat horizon because you re much larger then then globe there for the curve is noticeable you cant notice it on earth because the earth is so much larger then you that you arent able to see the curve


PUT THE CAMERA ON DA GLOEB HURR DURRRRR

I honestly couldn't believe he said that. then again he's only denying it because he knows the next step is that items half under and half over the horizon is only provable on the sphere earth. on a flat earth they talk about clouds lenses and clouding. its pitiful.
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Quote (JohnMiller92 @ Feb 8 2017 11:20am)
LOL!

So the globe spins, but it's a deception!

Truth of what? Knowing that the Earth is flat? Even if it was, how is that going to change my worldview on life? :lol:


Who said the globe spins - are you getting this from the video?

Holy - I think ive hit the basement of perception, no wonder you believe in gravity and grade 5 math - that when your mind peaked.
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Quote (Gratuitous @ Feb 8 2017 12:09pm)
you do realize that relative size plays into the flat horizon right? looking at a globe you will not see a flat horizon because you re much larger then then globe there for the curve is noticeable you cant notice it on earth because the earth is so much larger then you that you arent able to see the curve


yes of course , the higher up you are the more distance away the horizon will be. Your understanding seems to end there - what you see from Nasa when you think you see the curve of the earth is just the horizon curved by photographing it with a wide
lense. What you are saying is that the horizon is due to the curve of the earth but you cant tell its a curve because you are to close to earth and can only see a few miles. You might have a point but when you view a horizon of a few miles but when its hundreds of miles and its still flat - youve got a huge problem. And what no one will explain to you is that if you were seeing the curve - you'd see a curved horizon, dont listen to these massive trollers, get a globe and look for a flat horizon- it doesn't exist because it's a fantasy. This is why these trollers wont show you a 3d perspective on a globe - because it proves that if the world was a spinning ball, the horizon would show curve when you see enough of it, like on a hill, or a plane. Maybe you're thinking of a small globe and a standing far away - you need a large globe and a camera to move in close so that it would be the same perspective as if your in an airplane.

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yes of course , the higher up you are the more distance away the horizon will be. Your understanding seems to end there - what you see from Nasa when you think you see the curve of the earth is just the horizon curved by photographing it with a wide
lense. What you are saying is that the horizon is due to the curve of the earth but you cant tell its a curve because you are to close to earth and can only see a few miles. You might have a point but when you view a horizon of a few miles but when its hundreds of miles and its still flat - youve got a huge problem. And what no one will explain to you is that if you were seeing the curve - you'd see a curved horizon, dont listen to these massive trollers, get a globe and look for a flat horizon- it doesn't exist because it's a fantasy. This is why these trollers wont show you a 3d perspective on a globe - because it proves that if the world was a spinning ball, the horizon would show curve when you see enough of it, like on a hill, or a plane.


i said nothing about being higher up if earth was smaller you would more so notice the curve you notice the curve of the moon dont you?
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Feb 8 2017 08:19pm
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"if you were seeing the curve - you'd see a curved horizon, dont listen to these massive trollers, get a globe and look for a flat horizon- it doesn't exist because it's a fantasy. This is why these trollers wont show you a 3d perspective on a globe - because it proves that if the world was a spinning ball, the horizon would show curve when you see enough of it, like on a hill, or a plane. Maybe you're thinking of a small globe and a standing far away - you need a large globe and a camera to move in close so that it would be the same perspective as if your in an airplane."


Have you been in a Hot Air Balloon before? You can see the curved horizon.. lol

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Quote (thesnipa @ Feb 8 2017 01:38pm)
hey talk about clouds lenses and clouding. its pitiful.



What is clouds lensing and clouding? Are you making up words again that dont make sense, Are you talking about cloud blocking that hides the shrinking sun and makes you think the sun sets?

Cool, thats about .1% of Flat Earth theory - your making such good leap and bounds in understanding, another 100+ years and you'll get it.
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Quote (JohnMiller92 @ Feb 8 2017 04:19pm)
Have you been in a Hot Air Balloon before? You can see the curved horizon.. lol


You dont actually, i think your thinking of a photograph you saw online taken with a wide angle lense, its really easy to show you how it's done.

Do you see this bottom picture - do you see that curve 5 feet off the ground? Is the earth only a few miles around? See the top picture - hes only 120, 000 feet up and the curve is about 25% of a circle which would mean the earth is only a few hundred miles wide? Cmon man - It's just the cameras lense perspective, it's not reality.



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Quote (card_sultan @ Feb 8 2017 08:23pm)
What is clouds lensing and clouding? Are you making up words again that dont make sense, Are you talking about cloud blocking that hides the shrinking sun and makes you think the sun sets?

Cool, thats about .1% of Flat Earth theory - your making such good leap and bounds in understanding, another 100+ years and you'll get it.


He finally admits it's theory and not fact. Thanks! :)
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