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we both know you cant admit it because object disappearing beyond the horizon is only something that works on 1 of the 2 models without creating buzzword phrases with "clouding" in them. its nonsense, something your theory can't explain without hitting the "lenses" "conspiracy" button. because you're nuts, and you can't realize you're using nutso logic to back up something that shouldn't be, because you're nuts. :wacko:


1. Get a globe
2. Try to find the flat horizon
3. Realize you were a crazy fool to believe Helio worship.

Easy, but of course you wont do it, and will find a way to dance around your blindness. :wacko:


There is no conspiracy to understanding why things disappear beyond the horizon - its called the vanishing point and it is where the earth plane meets the sky plane, and to understand it you need to have a basic understanding of the 3 dimensions of space you live in. Trying to think in 2 dimensions is for idiots.

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Feb 8 2017 09:46am
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There is no conspiracy to understanding why things disappear beyond the horizon - its called the vanishing point and it is where the earth plane meets the sky plane, and to understand it you need to have a basic understanding of the 3 dimensions of space you live in. Trying to think in 2 dimensions is for idiots.


Lol, the "vanishing point" I think you are referring to is your logic

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Lol, the "vanishing point" I think you are referring to is your logic


Proof the vanishing point doesn't exist? Oh, thats right for you, you think you live in 2d flatland.

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Feb 8 2017 11:27am
Quote (card_sultan @ Feb 7 2017 10:42pm)
1. Get a globe
2. Try to find the flat horizon
3. Realize you were a crazy fool to believe Helio worship.

Easy, but of course you wont do it, and will find a way to dance around your blindness. :wacko:


There is no conspiracy to understanding why things disappear beyond the horizon - its called the vanishing point and it is where the earth plane meets the sky plane, and to understand it you need to have a basic understanding of the 3 dimensions of space you live in. Trying to think in 2 dimensions is for idiots.


how exactly does a globe prove what we're talking about? like at all.

in order to replicate the circumstances the camera needs to be ON the globe, able to turn 360 degrees, and at the proper scale to replicate the human eye. simply placing a camera on a globe and zooming in isn't replicating the circumstances at all, its nothing but the ideas of an idiot who needs to "create experiments" at home prove their biases then post on youtube.

again, on a globe (read:sphere) no point of the horizon is any further or closer to the observer than any other point. why would this then result in a curve?

this is your crux idiot, you can spew youtube videos but when someone actually wants to talk hypothetically about what is true on both a flat and sphere earth you turn into a 3rd grader who starts creating unfounded shit to deflect from very real issues with your model. PLEASE PLEASE start spouting some unfounded buzzwordery like "you have to look up" or "z axis" or "x point time 360 is bs" or whatever delusions you can't represent on paper or properly explain to dodge. or just go ahead and post that shit picture of someone leaning forward to present perspective again, that's a classic.
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how exactly does a globe prove what we're talking about? like at all.

in order to replicate the circumstances the camera needs to be ON the globe, able to turn 360 degrees, and at the proper scale to replicate the human eye. simply placing a camera on a globe and zooming in isn't replicating the circumstances at all, its nothing but the ideas of an idiot who needs to "create experiments" at home prove their biases then post on youtube.

again, on a globe (read:sphere) no point of the horizon is any further or closer to the observer than any other point. why would this then result in a curve?

this is your crux idiot, you can spew youtube videos but when someone actually wants to talk hypothetically about what is true on both a flat and sphere earth you turn into a 3rd grader who starts creating unfounded shit to deflect from very real issues with your model. PLEASE PLEASE start spouting some unfounded buzzwordery like "you have to look up" or "z axis" or "x point time 360 is bs" or whatever delusions you can't represent on paper or properly explain to dodge. or just go ahead and post that shit picture of someone leaning forward to present perspective again, that's a classic.


So you didn't do i the test- what a classic buffon and dodger,
Promised drawing - doesn't deliver.
Fails to answer basic question about the atmosphere
Dodges doing tests
Would rather sit and spread his BS and rage than actually learn or do anything
Trolls a FE thread

you say "No point on the horizon is further away" All your doing is using 2 d math for a single point and then multiplying it by infinity, as if the eye only sees one single point and you need to turn your head to see another. You can see the entire horizon at once dummy, no wonder you can't understand perspective - your a fool.

you say "How does a globe prove anything" - because it's actually 3 dimensional - not the retarded 2 dimensions you're thinking in.

"what is true on both a flat and sphere earth" - hmm nothing, especially perspective , - I know you think that's a word i made up to sound "buzzworthy" - Im such a populist :wacko:

"post that shit picture of someone leaning forward to present perspective again" - you mean the one i didnt draw and is just a screenshot of Ball Earthers idea of perspective? I'm glad we agree it's retarded. Funny that your 2d drawing is doing the same thing. Your misunderstanding shows you never think about anything, you just react like a child, where you always this impulsive?

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Feb 8 2017 12:28pm
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you say "No point on the horizon is further away" All your doing is using 2 d math for a single point and then multiplying it by infinity, as if the eye only sees one single point and you need to turn your head to see another. You can see the entire horizon at once dummy, no wonder you can't understand perspective - your a fool.


this is a lie, you keep saying it, but its still a lie. your inability to grasp this simple fact is leading you to make a fool out of yourself. Repeat after me, on a globe earth no point on the horizon is any farther away than any other point. now card, without deflecting to the problems with "my model" please explain why on "my model" a horizon which has equally spaced distances from the viewer in all directions wouldn't be flat. don't deflect with "its 2d vs 3d" this has nothing to do with dimensions, i'll repeat, why on "my model" a horizon which has equally spaced distances from the viewer in all directions wouldn't be flat

i'll be happy to post some pictures when you can agree on some really simple 5th grade geometry first.

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Feb 8 2017 01:52pm
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this is a lie, you keep saying it, but its still a lie. your inability to grasp this simple fact is leading you to make a fool out of yourself. Repeat after me, on a globe earth no point on the horizon is any farther away than any other point. now card, without deflecting to the problems with "my model" please explain why on "my model" a horizon which has equally spaced distances from the viewer in all directions wouldn't be flat. don't deflect with "its 2d vs 3d" this has nothing to do with dimensions, i'll repeat, why on "my model" a horizon which has equally spaced distances from the viewer in all directions wouldn't be flat

i'll be happy to post some pictures when you can agree on some really simple 5th grade geometry first.


First off , you have demonstrated a great ability to talk about your misunderstandings and assumptions.

you misunderstand my discussing the glass dome.

you misunderstand my discussion about perspective.

you misunderstand every picture and video.

Why are your failings to understand my fault?

Why is it you only understand things you were taught in 5th grade, and can not move beyond your limited schooling?

Perspective has nothing to do with the horizon? So basically you think the horizon is the curve of the Earth still.

You're completely stuck on your 2d geometry you learned in 5th grade, I wouldn't be as stupid a troller as you to call it a lie, i'm sure you have faith in it, but your not willing to show any proof and need to continually resort to ad-hominem attacks that only serve to reveal your level of delusion and rage, people like you are why Trump is president - there so sick of Liberal atheist cry babies.

So, are boats going over the curve of the earth when they go over the horizon?

Is the Horizon a result of your eyesight becoming level with the Earth because of perspective , or is your eye seeing the highest point of land and beyond that point - land goes down because of the curve?

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Feb 8 2017 02:22pm
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First off , you have demonstrated a great ability to talk about your misunderstandings and assumptions.

you misunderstand my discussing the glass dome.

you misunderstand my discussion about perspective.

you misunderstand every picture and video.

Why are your failings to understand my fault?

Why is it you only understand things you were taught in 5th grade, and can not move beyond your limited schooling?

Perspective has nothing to do with the horizon? So basically you think the horizon is the curve of the Earth still.

You're completely stuck on your 2d geometry you learned in 5th grade, I wouldn't be as stupid a troller as you to call it a lie, i'm sure you have faith in it, but your not willing to show any proof and need to continually resort to ad-hominem attacks that only serve to reveal your level of delusion and rage, people like you are why Trump is president - there so sick of Liberal atheist cry babies.

So, are boats going over the curve of the earth when they go over the horizon?

Is the Horizon a result of your eyesight becoming level with the Earth because of perspective , or is your eye seeing the highest point of land and beyond that point - land goes down because of the curve?


I really wish NASA would take you to the ISS so you can sit and watch your entire life fall apart

You'd probably claim it's CGI while looking out the window though

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Feb 8 2017 02:57pm
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I really wish NASA would take you to the ISS so you can sit and watch your entire life fall apart

You'd probably claim it's CGI while looking out the window though


Not a fan of ballon rides that need to project images of the Earth ball for proper indoctrination.



here's a nice video you won't watch so you can continue your misunderstanding, and trolling behavior.

It's just for those who will watch it, try to understand it, and for those that do, are rewarded with knowing the truth.

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Feb 8 2017 03:20pm
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Not a fan of ballon rides that need to project images of the Earth ball for proper indoctrination.

http://i.imgur.com/Pc7HT51.png

here's a nice video you won't watch so you can continue your misunderstanding, and trolling behavior.

It's just for those who will watch it, try to understand it, and for those that do, are rewarded with knowing the truth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUC37Nt5L74


LOL!

So the globe spins, but it's a deception!

Truth of what? Knowing that the Earth is flat? Even if it was, how is that going to change my worldview on life? :lol:

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