I have never said 2D and 3D are the same thing....

you are putting words in my mouth, guess so? GUESS SO?!??!?

Is that the type of science you use? just a bunch of guesses?

This post was edited by caswallen on Dec 4 2017 06:09pm

have you ever taken a drafting or design class?

because noticing the difference between 2D and 3D is practically step 1

2D + 1D = 3D

This post was edited by caswallen on Dec 4 2017 06:04pm

The guy distorts reality to fit his worldview

He hasn't taken anything since failing high school trig

So in about 4th grade children are told to do an experiment. They are handed a ruler, an apple, and a length of string. Using only these tools how can they figure out the circumference of the apple?

What we learned here today is that Card sultan thinks that because you place the string on the ruler, that the apple is as flat as the ruler is.

What's funny is that this example is neither proof of a round or flat earth, whether the string is measuring the length on a flat earth or round earth it's still measuring length.

As all bridges must be made in very short segments you don't need to curve to be accounted for at all, you just need small enough segments to fit the curve inside of a Torrence.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Dec 4 2017 06:16pm

Roads all over the Earth. And just so you don't go the lazy route and complain about vertical drop, roads are also adjusted in a left/right axis due to the Earth's curvature.

Here, go entertain yourself: http://www.travelandleisure.com/articles/gerco-de-ruijter-grid-corrections-highways-driving-wichita

No, in the top picture the ship is simply too small to see with the naked eye. It has not actually gone over the horizon. If I draw a dot on a wall and walk far enough away, I won't see the dot anymore. The wall will look as if there's nothing on it. That does not mean the dot has gone over the horizon. The human eye has a resolution limit of about 1 arcminute, so anything smaller than that we simply can't see.

I'm not sure what you mean by "up to get to the horizon". Honestly I don't actually understand how flat earthers can't figure out what the horizon is claimed to be. I get that you don't believe in a spherical earth, but you shouldn't have any trouble understanding the idea of a spherical earth unless you are a total moron. Just take an inflatable ball and look at it. Can you see the whole ball? Obviously not. The part you can't see is past the horizon, and the edge of the part you CAN see is the horizon. Put a little toy soldier on the ball and move him slowly along. At some point he will start disappearing from your view, as he's going past the horizon. This is what we believe happens in real life, so if you want to disprove what we believe then show how a simple model with an inflatable ball doesn't match the real world.

And yes, the horizon certainly does happen over land. It's easily demonstrated with mountains, skyscrapers, etc. The further away from a mountain you get, the less of it you will see. Land is just very irregular shaped, with hills and valleys and all sorts of obstructions, so it's not great for measuring or observing the horizon effect.

that sentence perfectly sums it up. i dont get it either. i have no problem discussing ridiculous concepts, the other person just needs to actually get what we're talking about.