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Dec 4 2017 02:24pm
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Correct, the ship will NOT come into view no matter how much you zoom. You will only be able to see the same parts of the ship, but in greater detail. Prove me wrong, show me a counter-example.
I won't be 100% convinced right away, but it would greatly shake my confidence in spherical earth and would cause me to start looking for explanations on how this could be possible. I would certainly stop claiming that the earth is spherical while I search for a satisfactory explanation.



Correct.


Yeah well i dont know why your saying you bring the ship before the horizon - perhaps someone misquoted or more likely you are misquoting.

this is what Flat Earthers are actually referring to, the top picture the ship appears to have gone over the hump you think is there (which is not) and to the other side of the Earth but you can just grab a zoom and bring it back into view.



Also if you think there is an "up" to get to the Horizon - do Rivers flow up into the sea? Why doesn't this optical effect happen over land or when you raise your height? Isn't it more likely that you are just completely clueless as to how perspective works?

Why dont tall trucks appear to be going over the horizon?

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Dec 4 2017 02:45pm
"you can just zoom and bring it back into view", said they, whom had never zoomed and brought it back into view.

I think it's funny you're still pulling out that old lie, the fact is you can't use zoom and bring it back, it's gone. Both round earthers and less stupid than you flat earthers know this. It's the reason they create a bunch of fake terms for what's happening involving clouding, evaporation, and all bunches of other nonsense.

The fact that you talk about these made up deflection effects AND the zoom is pretty funny though.
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"you can just zoom and bring it back into view", said they, whom had never zoomed and brought it back into view.

I think it's funny you're still pulling out that old lie, the fact is you can't use zoom and bring it back, it's gone. Both round earthers and less stupid than you flat earthers know this. It's the reason they create a bunch of fake terms for what's happening involving clouding, evaporation, and all bunches of other nonsense.

The fact that you talk about these made up deflection effects AND the zoom is pretty funny though.


No the top photo you cant see the ship and ballers will swear that it has gone over their imaginary hump, grab a zoom and presto you bring it back into view, magic i guess. You're simple misunderstanding words and when to use them, and what they mean cause you're not very smart and need to lie to yourself cause complete void of any intellectual honesty. You're simply trying to project your own misunderstanding onto anyone who points out your blatant errors in thinking. A zoom camera does not change your perspective - if anything it just amplifies it, no zoom camera can make an object appear before the horizon that has gone over the optical horizon, but you still think the horizon is a result of the curve of the Earth dont you, lol. Such epic silliness.

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No the top photo you cant see the ship and ballers will swear that it has gone over their imaginary hump, grab a zoom and presto you bring it back into view, magic i guess. You're simple misunderstanding words and when to use them, and what they mean cause you're not very smart and need to lie to yourself cause complete void of any intellectual honesty. You're simply trying to project your own misunderstanding onto anyone who points out your blatant errors in thinking. A zoom camera does not change your perspective - if anything it just amplifies it, no zoom camera can make an object appear before the horizon that has gone over the optical horizon, but you still think the horizon is a result of the curve of the Earth dont you, lol. Such epic silliness.


I stopped once i got to a lie you've never proven but keep repeating.
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I stopped once i got to a lie you've never proven but keep repeating.


Show me the quote where I said a zoom lense can make objects appear before the optical horizon that have gone over the horizon, also if you think things have gone over the Hump - beyond the imaginary curve - you are lying to yourself.

Things do not travel up to the horizon Mr Low Iq. Rivers do not travel up to the sea. You simply dont know the difference between actual 2d and 3d perspective cause you were never taught on purpose and you have no need to actually use and apply it.

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so cute that your limited to posting +1 spam and troll comments

since all you can do is lie and psychotic troll with implied death threats that mods completely ignore

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Show me the quote where I said a zoom lense can make objects appear before the optical horizon that have gone over the horizon, also if you think things have gone over the Hump - beyond the imaginary curve - you are lying to yourself.

Things do not travel up to the horizon Mr Low Iq. Rivers do not travel up to the sea. You simply dont know the difference between actual 2d and 3d perspective cause you were never taught on purpose and you have no need to actually use and apply it.

https://i.imgur.com/RYDxrAV.jpg


i have a degree in it, i'm sure you have more than a few biased youtube videos to offer as proof though. I mean, if your ideas of perspective were correct it would extend to many other branches of learning. Oh wait i forgot that literally all science, math, engineering, etc are all in on the conspiracy...

I'm sure you realize that if what you say is true about perspective that many large large scale engineering projects across the globe would be failing, because if you didn't realize that it would be quite embarrassing.
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i have a degree in it, i'm sure you have more than a few biased youtube videos to offer as proof though. I mean, if your ideas of perspective were correct it would extend to many other branches of learning. Oh wait i forgot that literally all science, math, engineering, etc are all in on the conspiracy...

I'm sure you realize that if what you say is true about perspective that many large large scale engineering projects across the globe would be failing, because if you didn't realize that it would be quite embarrassing.


First you dodge all my question and points.

Secondly - the difference between 2 d side view reality vs 3d optical perspective only applies to understanding what perspective actually is and how it works, Its the difference between clarifying what is in your mind and what you see and acknowledging they are different and understanding why.

Third - large scale engineering projects are based on a flat plane cause thats how it is - we dont account for curve because there is no curve.

Look at the suez canal - 600 miles of flat

Look at tunnels, bridges, railroads - all based on a flat plane.

This a bridge in China - over 100 miles - if the earth was a ball there would be a mile curve in it, please never build anything.

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