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Aug 10 2021 11:18pm
Quote (impdemon @ 10 Aug 2021 22:13)
what if someone never dies then never goes to heaven or hell?


Never is a word that could have certainly gave meaning to help with everything.
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Can someone explain to me why there are three gods in christianity, father, son, holy spirit yet the bible claims they are "one" if that is true, who did Jesus pray to? Himself?

Im not a polytheist, but a monotheist. No matter how hard Christianity tries to present itself as Jesus being a messiah, the whole story seems unnecessary and the first books written were after 70 AD 70 years after his supposed death, Quran claims Jesus Christ was resurrected to heaven, as a prophet, and he was never on the cross because they took someone else that looked like Jesus and then tortured him. The bible breaks the first commandment: "God is one, thou shalt not serve other gods but Me!"

God (Allah) sent Muhammad(pbuh) to teach us as the last prophet to make a perfect religion from the Quran that was sent by God to Jibreel to give Muhammad.

Saying you need Jesus Christ because your going to hell without him is not right. I like equal opportunity for everyone to practice their own beliefs as long as it doesn't harm anyone or ones self.

The Bible is corrupted most likely
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Aug 10 2021 11:31pm
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Can someone explain to me why there are three gods in christianity, father, son, holy spirit yet the bible claims they are "one" if that is true, who did Jesus pray to? Himself?

Im not a polytheist, but a monotheist. No matter how hard Christianity tries to present itself as Jesus being a messiah, the whole story seems unnecessary and the first books written were after 70 AD 70 years after his supposed death, Quran claims Jesus Christ was resurrected to heaven, as a prophet, and he was never on the cross because they took someone else that looked like Jesus and then tortured him. The bible breaks the first commandment: "God is one, thou shalt not serve other gods but Me!"

God (Allah) sent Muhammad(pbuh) to teach us as the last prophet to make a perfect religion from the Quran that was sent by God to Jibreel to give Muhammad.

Saying you need Jesus Christ because your going to hell without him is not right. I like equal opportunity for everyone to practice their own beliefs as long as it doesn't harm anyone or ones self.

The Bible is corrupted most likely


maybe they are the three forms of the holy spirit aka ghosts we are the human version jesus is the embodied and god himself is his true super saiyan form maybe though just winging it like without bones and lots of sauce
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maybe they are the three forms of the holy spirit aka ghosts we are the human version jesus is the embodied and god himself is his true super saiyan form maybe though just winging it like without bones and lots of sauce


Quran states Jesus was just a prophet, that Allah did make him, but not as his son. God cannot have sons or they would have to fight over space. Since there are three gods in christianity, that is bad to worship them, because first commandment tells us there is only one god and he doesnt prescribe partners
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Quran states Jesus was just a prophet, that Allah did make him, but not as his son. God cannot have sons or they would have to fight over space. Since there are three gods in christianity, that is bad to worship them, because first commandment tells us there is only one god and he doesnt prescribe partners


so it's like a glitch in the religion game that they never patched cause they can't fix it no more? legendary bug in the system
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so it's like a glitch in the religion game that they never patched cause they can't fix it no more? legendary bug in the system


I mean like just imagine if God is omniscient. If there are more than one God, they would have to share space, making God not omniscient anymore because he would have to enter someone elses space to be omniscient.

Polytheism never made much sense to me.
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Quote (Tommym25 @ Aug 11 2021 10:52am)
So who wrote it? Did it just appear out of nowhere, then get copied over a billion times by no one? Your statement is that you believe it because it’s true? How do you know it’s true? What proof do you have other then what’s stated in the Bible, which was written by men not by a ghost or whatever the hell you think did.


The Bible was written:

1. Over a period of 1500 years (1400 B.C to A.D.100).
2. Over 40 generations.
Over 40 authors from many walks of life i.e. Kings, Peasants, Philosophers, Fishermen, Poets, Statesmen and Scholars.

Quote (death_knight @ Aug 11 2021 02:14pm)
Both, and for several reasons

First there are over 200 denominations of Christianity and many versions of the Holy book, that fact alone is alarming despite the reasons which leads to the one I was raising in, "born again Christian" which you can research for yourself.. the first time I found fault in the teachings was the passage of the men carrying the arc of the covenant; one of the men through his carelessness dropped his end and God through his "wrath" killed him instantly.

I'll admit I have met some good natured Christians and Catholics such as my grandparents but my general view of Christian is they are close minded, arrogant and relentless at times when pressed or challenged. In contrast there are many faiths such as buddist who devote their life to purity. I'll admit I haven't met a single devot buddist but the facts of the teachings remain.

Furthermore which I've said before, of one faith deserves study then so do all else and that would take a hundred lifetimes.

Inner peace and enlightenment are my personal goals. I describe inner peace as how I want to look back on my life when I die. I want to look at it with honour because there is nothing else of your self that matters but that and it's your honor that has guided every decision in your life. Do you lie to get what you want or do you work hard for it? Etc.

I would describe enlightenment as having achieved the highest possible state of mind possible. I know my own mind state changes drastically, I am curious to see it's potential. This can be purely mental or physical as well. I would also describe it as the "tools" I use to reason and rationalize, do I jump to conclusions or do I evaluate step by step? What is my thought process and am I blind to my own faults? What effect do I have on Nature, people and animals. These are very basic things in my opinion but they are often overlooked and I believe this to be what monks do, they focus on simplicity because while physics is mathematically complex it is simple to interact with.

I could go on about the idea....


The reason for that can be found in Numbers 4:15. You can read that here: https://www.gotquestions.org/Uzzah.html

That is my go to site for any questions you may have. Use it as you will.
Quote (DCEVO @ Aug 11 2021 03:29pm)
Can someone explain to me why there are three gods in christianity, father, son, holy spirit yet the bible claims they are "one" if that is true, who did Jesus pray to? Himself?

Im not a polytheist, but a monotheist. No matter how hard Christianity tries to present itself as Jesus being a messiah, the whole story seems unnecessary and the first books written were after 70 AD 70 years after his supposed death, Quran claims Jesus Christ was resurrected to heaven, as a prophet, and he was never on the cross because they took someone else that looked like Jesus and then tortured him. The bible breaks the first commandment: "God is one, thou shalt not serve other gods but Me!"

God (Allah) sent Muhammad(pbuh) to teach us as the last prophet to make a perfect religion from the Quran that was sent by God to Jibreel to give Muhammad.

Saying you need Jesus Christ because your going to hell without him is not right. I like equal opportunity for everyone to practice their own beliefs as long as it doesn't harm anyone or ones self.

The Bible is corrupted most likely


Same with you. This may answer your question: https://www.gotquestions.org/three-gods.html

Any questions you have regarding the Trinity then consult that site.
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Aug 11 2021 12:42am
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Quote (CPK001 @ Aug 10 2021 11:34pm)
The Bible was written:

1. Over a period of 1500 years (1400 B.C to A.D.100).
2. Over 40 generations.
Over 40 authors from many walks of life i.e. Kings, Peasants, Philosophers, Fishermen, Poets, Statesmen and Scholars.



The reason for that can be found in Numbers 4:15. You can read that here: https://www.gotquestions.org/Uzzah.html

That is my go to site for any questions you may have. Use it as you will.

Same with you. This may answer your question: https://www.gotquestions.org/three-gods.html

Any questions you have regarding the Trinity then consult that site.


I dont have any questions im just pointing out the ridiculousness of saying 3 is 1.

Also why would God send his son to be a sacrifice? He can just forgive sin, jesus was a prophet and always praised Allaha, and was taken from the earth from Allah to heaven.

Saying God cant forgive sin because we need to worship his human son takes away all the glory from Allah and turns it into energy for a polytheistic triune god.

Written over the course of almost a century after Jesus' death, the four gospels of the New Testament, though they tell the same story, reflect very different ideas and concerns. A period of forty years separates the death of Jesus from the writing of the first gospel.

40 years by then its time for this religion to seek the true God. 40 years to corrupt the bible making jesus a human god ready to be sacrificed because were sinners.

This post was edited by DCEVO on Aug 11 2021 01:24am
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Quote (CPK001 @ Aug 10 2021 11:34pm)
The Bible was written:

1. Over a period of 1500 years (1400 B.C to A.D.100).
2. Over 40 generations.
Over 40 authors from many walks of life i.e. Kings, Peasants, Philosophers, Fishermen, Poets, Statesmen and Scholars.



The reason for that can be found in Numbers 4:15. You can read that here: https://www.gotquestions.org/Uzzah.html

That is my go to site for any questions you may have. Use it as you will.

Same with you. This may answer your question: https://www.gotquestions.org/three-gods.html

Any questions you have regarding the Trinity then consult that site.


"The Bible teaches that God is one in essence, three in Person: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit (Matthew 3:16-17; 28:19). Each is fully God. God is not three gods but three in one. Although we cannot completely grasp the tri-unity of God, we must trust His revelation is true."

I wont take religious advice from whoever wrote that, "we dont know how the triune god is one but the bible says so, so I believe" is not valid argument.

Jesus Christ did not even fulfill all the prophecies and God warns us in the first commandment to not prescribe partners to Him. so there goes the whole new testament its a blasphemous book of polytheism disguised as monotheism

Dont worry about me Ive read the whole bible already a few times.

This post was edited by DCEVO on Aug 11 2021 04:18am
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