Cause life isn't already an artificial eutopia?

Depends on your fundamental values.

Exactly. Anyone can have their individual values on drugs. But you blanket them as weak individuals?

So you're arguing that someone's base fundamental value can be the escape from reality?

Yes I do. Typically they become highly dependant without any ability to rationalize. Personal will is completely dominated by a substance. That's weak.

Go down skid row and ask them if they want to be where's they are and ask if they want to quit. They will say yes but they can't.

The escape for a quick high over and over while not building on the fundamentals of life will lead to depression and suacide. Hence the high rates of suacide among hard drug users.

An empty weak shell.

But hey I'm sure abandoning your family at 26 is the quality of a strong individual.

This post was edited by SBD on Sep 8 2018 01:59pm

I didn't argue anything other than people are free to have their opinions and sometimes they're strong individuals that choose to do drugs anyway.

While I agree with what you're saying, I disagree how you were saying all drug users are weak.

I believe that type of dependence to be weak much like the person who builds their self esteem around how many likes or red ones are at the top of their social media.

I mean you're not wrong, but as you were on the subject of mac miller, that isn't the case for him.
Go watch a few of his videos on his addiction

Again, I agree.. but
Anyone in government weak by your standards?
They're built by how many people like them..

you can pretend you understand addiction, but from an x addict standpoint its clear to so you dont

And you can pretend to say you didn't have a choice.