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Aug 8 2021 08:54pm
Quote (Tommym25 @ Aug 8 2021 07:50pm)
Religion is man made. All made up to create power. Power creates wealth. Simple


so if there was a heaven or hell which you think you will arrive too?
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Aug 8 2021 09:45pm
Quote (impdemon @ 8 Aug 2021 21:54)
so if there was a heaven or hell which you think you will arrive too?


There isn’t either. No heaven nor hell. How can I say if I know for a fact neither exist.
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Aug 8 2021 09:51pm
Quote (Tommym25 @ Aug 8 2021 08:45pm)
There isn’t either. No heaven nor hell. How can I say if I know for a fact neither exist.


any one can decide what to believe for any reason whatsoever or even for no reason
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Aug 8 2021 10:11pm
Been a long time since I posted here.

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Quote (Kyhle @ Aug 8 2021 09:11pm)
Been a long time since I posted here.


welcome back to your personal heavenly spot or hellish play ground !
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Quote (impdemon @ 8 Aug 2021 21:15)
welcome back to your personal heavenly spot or hellish play ground !


I am on a war path tbh.

That is what has been chosen for me.

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Quote (Kyhle @ Aug 8 2021 09:16pm)
I am on a war path tbh.

That is what has been chosen for me.

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the death to heaven is waiting for some and others champions in time even when sacrifice is needed
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Quote (impdemon @ 8 Aug 2021 21:17)
the death to heaven is waiting for some and others champions in time even when sacrifice is needed


I just want to cry man. I have sacrificed so much already. It can certainly be unfair at some point, or rather a waste of myself and irresponsible for me to do, especially when I care for others.

This is just my blood though you know? Who cares.
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Quote (death_knight @ Aug 9 2021 12:26pm)
Don't be silly.. you guys treat me like I'm an ungodly person. I've just never had any supernatural experience so my "facts" and logic are based purely in the physical world. Unfortunately you probably won't believe but I consider myself a person of uncompromising morals: I'm vegan, I have a business and am regarded by my clients and peers are highly ethical, I don't steal, I don't cheat, I rarely lie (it would be a lie to say I don't lie!), I rarely covet, I respect all walks of lifes and I ponder many issues far more than the average person. In fact I was working all day and was thinking about my quarrel with the other gentlemen in this topic today. I do not take matters of the mind or heart lightly and it's for these reasons that I've become an extremely insensitive person to many people, an excellent example is religious folk who partake in the mass murder of animals.. I worked in a slaughterhouse and have seen cruelty to animals with my owe eyes, how on earth can I perceive a doctrine as truth when they are blind to very real and direct issues. It is a matter of people praising their good qualities and thinking none of their evils. Frankly I hate people in general because of their complete lack of regard for Nature, Earth and all lifeforms. To turn around and say God says this and God says that while blind to the issues mentioned I take as an insult to my intelligence and morality. Furthermore it bothers me you people on this site label me because of my warn and locked status and assume I have no depth. One passage from the Word I consider sacred: do not worry yourself with the stick in your brothers eye when you have a log in your own! I am living in a world full of so called rational people who when analyzed are far from it and I would go so far to label them as another disguised evil of the world.


I myself haven't had any supernatural experience either. Yet I still believe.

I should ask though, have you done any research on this? What aspect of life do you aspire to?

Quote (Tommym25 @ Aug 9 2021 12:50pm)
Religion is man made. All made up to create power. Power creates wealth. Simple


How did you come to this conclusion?

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There isn’t either. No heaven nor hell. How can I say if I know for a fact neither exist.


On top of that, what you are saying is that there is no judgement after death. There is no accountability for your actions.

If you truly believe that then why aren't you going on a murderous rampage if there is no ultimate judgement for your actions? I mean, by that logic this life is completely and utterly meaningless and it's all about chasing after the things of this world.

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Quote (CPK001 @ 9 Aug 2021 01:02)
I myself haven't had any supernatural experience either. Yet I still believe.

I should ask though, have you done any research on this? What aspect of life do you aspire to?



How did you come to this conclusion?



On top of that, what you are saying is that there is no judgement after death. There is no accountability for your actions.

If you truly believe that then why aren't you going on a murderous rampage if there is no ultimate judgement for your actions? I mean, by that logic this life is completely and utterly meaningless and it's all about chasing after the things of this world.


Research on what? Supernatural experience? Sure but I classify it as suedo science because by definition it's phenomena that is either impossible to measure or exclusive to the person so I fear that any study is an exercise in folly and more often than not people attribute spiritual experience to trivial feelings or witnessing of physics (door opened by itself! Ghosts!) where they lack understanding which is not necessarily their fault just ignorance to the construct of reality.. if anything I think God as you see it is more like an operating system running everything in the background because it boggles my mind an all powerful entity could have existed forever. I think it's far more likely the universe is infinite in past and future and again a deity is not a prerequisite for the world I live in.


You mentioned judgement after death, oddly I have had several believers of different faith reference this as some need for God to judge. I am vegan primarily because I don't want to kill anything then find out it was wrong. I would rather just "play it safe", and a belief in a deity is not required to life a moral life. I consider it a sin to think I MUST subscribe to a doctrine before I able to be a "good person".

I've said it before.. I believe life to be simple and pure, with good and evil easily discernable to all. Religion it seems only serve to cloud and corrupt what is already pure and true (Nature). This is why I say I live my life by reality because that's all I need to life morally, God doesn't fit into my equation in the least.
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