Quote (death_knight @ Jul 3 2021 01:58pm)
I don't have any particular passage of the Bible to argue because again it was written by man. Now while I admit there is a chance it is the word of God, it is evident that is not; by this I mean as how the followers act in regard to the teachings. Now clearly there is false prophecy and those who have simply misunderstood the writings and have become mislead and therefore lost but the fact remains that the word of God should be impermeable if it exists. This paragraph is not an argument but rather an observation that I began at a very young age perhaps 10 years old when I witnessed "mischief" in the church.
As far as research is concerned we must agree that everyones burden of proof is different, in other words you may not believe something as easily as I would. With this in mind we can agree that any fact is actually a collection of smaller facts that support that fact because without that reference the fact becomes psuedo or false reasoning. Building on this, almost any research I could do personally is limited by both my intelligence as well as my means of inquiry (do I have internet? Am I rich? / Can I afford to spend my life properly asking questions?) so most information I collect is what I call "second hand information". This information although likely correct (atoms exist, the north star never moves etc.) is unverifiable to me personally - it would take me a hundred lifetimes to confirm what astronomers already know however the fact remains I have only one lifetime and i am not an astronomy major so I must take it on faith atoms are real.
So while I may seem to have strong opinions regarding religion and science I actually don't because the scope of chemistry, physics, energy and time are so mind boggling the whole word of scientists still know little about basic things like gravity. So if I'm unable to make a rational decision about gravity with with I interact with constantly i feel it be absolutely foolish of me to assuming what happens after my death or the nature of God; two things I have 0% experience with unlike gravity.
I hope this gives some insight into what it means to be agnostic. The logical approach to religion would be to study them each equally and fully but I think that's a waste of life. I have a much simpler ideal which is to enjoy the speck of time we have on this planet instead of searching for reason and purpose which frankly I think don't exist.
I'm going to focus purely on the bold for this one.
I knew that everything that you would say after that sentence would be irrelevant as it is based off a sand like foundation. If we go by your logic then the post that I am reading was also written by man. All the books that you have ever read in your entire life were also written by man.
Even when bots send you automated messages, the message they are coded to send was originally written by man.
If you believe the logical approach to religion is to study them all you still run into your original problem; they were all written by man. You are pretty much saying that all words that are written down are useless.
Have you ever read a book that was written by a cat or a dog? I also don't mean the paw prints. I don't know what life form you expect to write these words down that you will accept them but it must be some kind of life form you have not physically seen as of yet.
I also don't understand your logic why you would then go onto post a Bible verse that, in your own words, was written by man? You don't even believe the very words that you are quoting.
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