Quote (xfrodobagginsx @ May 2 2021 12:56am)

Happy Sunday! Find a good Bible believing Church and attend!

Quote (death_knight @ 19 Apr 2021 16:29)

Take a moment and break down what this passage is saying and then I will

Quote (CPK001 @ 20 Apr 2021 03:25)

Gladly. here is the passage in it's entirety:

Ephesians 2:1-10 As for you, you were dead in your transgressions and sins, in which you used to live when you followed the ways of this world and of the ruler of the kingdom of the air, the spirit who is now at work in those who are disobedient. All of us also lived among them at one time, gratifying the cravings of our flesh and following its desires and thoughts. Like the rest, we were by nature deserving of wrath. But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions—it is by grace you have been saved. And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus, in order that in the coming ages he might show the incomparable riches of his grace, expressed in his kindness to us in Christ Jesus. For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.

Let's look at what our state is without God. We are dead in our transgressions and sins. As a result we followed the ways of this world and the ruler of the Earth, the devil. This means we chase after the things of this world and do not care for God. We deserve the wrath of God.

However, God loved us so much that we were made alive in Christ, even while we were dead in our transgressions. By the grace of God we have been saved. We are raised with Christ who seated us with him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus. Now he can show the incomparable riches of his grace, expressed in his kindness to us in Christ Jesus.

To summarize, we are saved by grace, through faith and NOT by works. It is the gift of God. There is nobody on this world who can say that they saved themselves, nobody can boast about that. God created us in his image to do good works, which He has prepared in advance for us to do.

Quote (death_knight @ May 2 2021 04:07pm)

I didn't ask for the entire passage and an interpretation, I asked for a breakdown of the single verse as how you presented it

Ephesians 2:8 - "For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God,"

Try again :)

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Take a moment and break down what this passage is saying and then I will

Quote (CPK001 @ 2 May 2021 04:34)

Let it be known to everyone who reads this that death_knight blatantly made a fool of himself. As you can see he asked for a break down of the passage, which means the context behind that verse.

He then says in his most recent post that he actually meant the single verse and not the whole passage.

I mean really? How thick can you get?

If he really wanted his answer then he simply would have read the last line which is the summarization of that very verse.

Quote (death_knight @ May 2 2021 04:45am)

Breakdown in my opinion means breaking down each word in the 2 sentences which I did word for word, which I wanted you to do first as not to become biased based on my analysis

but you on the other hand decided to deliver upon me another lesson that is besides the point AND call me a fool, clearly it is you that is in ignorance for you failed to follow instructions in a simple debate and reply with scorn!

I'm not stupid and I don't think you are either

But you sure can't have an impartial and unbiased conversation that's for certain

Quote (wraps @ 2 May 2021 09:17)

A breakdown of that verse is that God had mercy on us and saved us. Not because of anything we did so we can't take the credit for our salvation! :)

That was the breakdown of that verse! God pretty much bent over backwards and made it super easy for us to enter the gates of heaven! The only thing that we actually have to do is believe in His Son Jesus and that what He did on the cross was sufficient to cover our sins! Trust in Him and we will be saved! That's it! Super simple! :)

Quote (death_knight @ May 2 2021 02:44pm)

That's an interpretation / summary.. perhaps I am using the wrong terminology

I'm asking for a literal description of the exact words as presented

The point I'm trying to make is that verse is a fallacy, when I have more time later I'll take 20 minutes to describe my objective analysis

Both of you as far as I'm concerned have an incorrect interpretation of the passage based on the words used and I want to emphasize how it's religious bias to do so

I'll return to this later

Quote (wraps @ May 2 2021 08:17am)

A breakdown of that verse is that God had mercy on us and saved us. Not because of anything we did so we can't take the credit for our salvation! :)

That was the breakdown of that verse! God pretty much bent over backwards and made it super easy for us to enter the gates of heaven! The only thing that we actually have to do is believe in His Son Jesus and that what He did on the cross was sufficient to cover our sins! Trust in Him and we will be saved! That's it! Super simple! :)