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Mar 21 2021 11:24am
Quote (hoipolloi @ Mar 21 2021 07:53am)
You know what your argument is like.

It's like you go to a buffet and every food you try you have never had before. There are 50 food items and you take a bite of each

Then, following severe cramping and indigestion an hour later, you point to a food and say it was that one that upset my stomach! But you just ate 50 new foods. How could you possibly know what food caused it? You go back and eat them again or whatever you do to try to establish which food it was. Good.

A CLAIM must BE DEMONSTRATED to be the case if you want reason and logic on your side, you don't just get to assume things as facts. That isn't how reason works.

By the way in the case of god, you can't try the foods again. You are as far as we know, being restricted to methodological naturalism, NOT ABLE to test for god. Therefore the correct response to the god question is I DON'T KNOW, and I need more information. The burden of proof is not met. I withhold belief pending sufficient evidence.


i can advise you on this much
you should refrain from giving reason and logic examples
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i can advise you on this much
you should refrain from giving reason and logic examples


You wouldnt know reason and logic if it banged your mother and birthed you. Want to criticize something, let's see the reasoning and logic you use. Anyone can make bold assertions. Stay less intelligent than me, thx
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Quote (hoipolloi @ Mar 21 2021 01:30pm)
You wouldnt know reason and logic if it banged your mother and birthed you. Want to criticize something, let's see the reasoning and logic you use. Anyone can make bold assertions. Stay less intelligent than me, thx


In the early days of science, science was defined as the search for truth where ever it may lead. Anti theists in their arrogance and pride assumed they would get rid of God this way. This has completely failed. So in the spirit of rebellion the definition has been changed to "the study of the natural and physical world ONLY" attempting to remove God by force of new definition. But wait? Has there been a oversight?
The bible ,undeniably, is in the natural and physical world, ok? let us apply the scientific method (observation,experimentation,repeatable) to it and attempt to summarize it.

We see the bible........... observation
We test the word, become convinced, repent and become christian..... experimentation
Happens every generation..........repeatable

what does the atheist have?...........................monkey imagination
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In the early days of science, science was defined as the search for truth where ever it may lead. Anti theists in their arrogance and pride assumed they would get rid of God this way. This has completely failed. So in the spirit of rebellion the definition has been changed to "the study of the natural and physical world ONLY" attempting to remove God by force of new definition. But wait? Has there been a oversight?
The bible ,undeniably, is in the natural and physical world, ok? let us apply the scientific method (observation,experimentation,repeatable) to it and attempt to summarize it.

We see the bible........... observation
We test the word, become convinced, repent and become christian..... experimentation
Happens every generation..........repeatable

what does the atheist have?...........................monkey imagination


The bible is in the natural world, the claims it makes are not natural , idiot. Go ahead and give me a single example of something empirically demonstrated or observed that is supernatural. You have none. Dont talk to me about reason and logic you fucking inbred dumbass. Exactly as I said, make a bald assertion about my analogy like you know something no one else does and don't respond to the challenge of critiquing it. Shut the fuck up and sit down, deluded fool. You are a low IQer.

Tell me how you tested the word to confirm jesus was murdered and rose in body to heaven. Lol.

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The bible is in the natural world, the claims it makes are not natural , idiot. Go ahead and give me a single example of something empirically demonstrated or observed that is supernatural. You have none. Dont talk to me about reason and logic you fucking inbred dumbass. Exactly as I said, make a bald assertion about my analogy like you know something no one else does and don't respond to the challenge of critiquing it. Shut the fuck up and sit down, deluded fool. You are a low IQer.


abiogenesis was an asserted explanation that was expected to be proven true with the advancement of science. This has completely failed. Science hasnt the foggiest idea how a abiogenesis event could occur.
by definition this makes all life supernatural.

the progression of science brings more hardship to the atheist. science and "simulation" hypothesis. science hasnt a clue even to the nature of the construct we inhabit.
by definition that makes the construct super natural.

by definition the whole construct and everything contained with in it is super natural. this also includes you. and there is no exception.

you may have a higher IQ than I do but that doesnt change any thing.

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abiogenesis was an asserted explanation that was expected to be proven true with the advancement of science. This has completely failed. Science hasnt the foggiest idea how a abiogenesis event could occur.
by definition this makes all life supernatural.

the progression of science brings more hardship to the atheist. science and "simulation" hypothesis. science hasnt a clue even to the nature of the construct we inhabit.
by definition that makes the construct super natural.

by definition the whole construct and everything contained with in it is super natural. this also includes you. and there is no exception.

you may have a higher IQ than I do but that doesnt change any thing.


False. Error. Error. If we don't know how life originated the correct answer is "we dont know" not god did it. Error. Fallacy. Error. Low IQ. Error.
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Quote (hoipolloi @ Mar 21 2021 02:27pm)
False. Error. Error. If we don't know how life originated the correct answer is "we dont know" not god did it. Error. Fallacy. Error. Low IQ. Error.


i said "by definition its supernatural" your the one that jumped to "god did it"

isnt it about time you looked up the definition of super natural?
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Quote (TiStuff @ Mar 21 2021 04:37pm)
i said "by definition its supernatural" your the one that jumped to "god did it"

isnt it about time you looked up the definition of super natural?


Dude . The same exact logic applies. I'm not going to argue stupid fuxking semantical games with you

If you don't know you dont know. Not supernatural. Not god. Not an entity. We do not know.
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Quote (hoipolloi @ Mar 21 2021 02:43pm)
Dude . The same exact logic applies. I'm not going to argue stupid fuxking semantical games with you

If you don't know you dont know. Not supernatural. Not god. Not an entity. We do not know.


su·per·nat·u·ral
/ˌso͞opərˈnaCH(ə)rəl/
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adjective
adjective: supernatural

(of a manifestation or event) attributed to some force beyond scientific understanding or the laws of nature.

when a person takes time to really look at it all one can find that the gate keepers of knowledge are not very honest. Its is astounding how much the human race has learned and yet at the same time the simplest questions push further out of reach.

1 Timothy 6:20
King James Version
20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:

do you know any scripture? any at all?
Snakes Evolved Out of Their Legs—but They Still Have the ...
www.nationalgeographic.com › snakes-grow-legs-evolution
Snakes used to have legs. Now they have evolved, but the gene to grow limbs still exists.

have you ever even read a gospel? one measly little gospel?

do you have any idea the complexity and interdependence of living systems?
Electron Transport Chain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdF3mnyS1p0
science has been brutal to the atheist

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