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Quote (ChivasRegal @ Feb 14 2020 09:27am)
when you're exposed to the truth, it really leaves an impression on you, doesn't it?
you are welcome brother.


Lol
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Quote (ChivasRegal @ Feb 14 2020 02:07pm)
2 Timothy 3 Amplified Bible (AMP)
“Difficult Times Will Come”

(skip to verse 16:)
All Scripture is God-breathed [given by divine inspiration] and is profitable for instruction, for conviction [of sin], for correction [of error and restoration to obedience],
for training in righteousness [learning to live in conformity to God’s will, both publicly and privately—behaving honorably with personal integrity and moral courage]

^ this cannot be said the same of the doctrines of science and theories (of man)........and the prophesied theme title sure rings true, it is indeed difficult to try and get through to you (all) while constantly being ad hom attacked and scoffed and mocked.


2 Timothy 4:3
For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions,

^ this prophesy is describing you exactly and how you will only listen to scientists and follow your own passions/theories.


As usual reverting to the Bible when science fails your claims

But lets look at them

1) You Don't hold your self to the same proof standard. You chirp if we post videos from YT but only post YT vids your self to "back up your claims"
2) You say you can't prove your claims and you'll be dead if you do. Yet you post a troll face picture saying you did post proof so you're lying in one of those
3) Since you keep dodging when pressed for answers to your claims they are all thus hearsay since unproven yet you accuse us of hearsay

How is that behaving honorably with personal integrity ?


At 40+ years old you go by the words of random or unknown YT posters alone who never have credible references outside YT to prove their claims
How is that sound teaching


You accept them as truth simply for them saying the same things as you which is accumulating for yourself teachers to suit your own passions

As I said hypocrisy is a part of your life


Quote (ChivasRegal @ Feb 14 2020 03:27pm)
when you're exposed to the truth, it really leaves an impression on you, doesn't it?
you are welcome brother.

A claim or opinion is only the truth if proven. Since you can't prove any of them and keep dodging its hearsay ;)

This post was edited by kai_jph on Feb 14 2020 07:48am
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Quote (kai_jph @ Feb 14 2020 11:17pm)
As usual reverting to the Bible when science fails your claims

But lets look at them

1) You Don't hold your self to the same proof standard. You chirp if we post videos from YT but only post YT vids your self to "back up your claims"
2) You say you can't prove your claims and you'll be dead if you do. Yet you post a troll face picture saying you did post proof so you're lying in one of those
3) Since you keep dodging when pressed for answers to your claims they are all thus hearsay since unproven yet you accuse us of hearsay

How is that behaving honorably with personal integrity ?


At 40+ years old you go by the words of random or unknown YT posters alone who never have credible references outside YT to prove their claims
How is that sound teaching


You accept them as truth simply for them saying the same things as you which is accumulating for yourself teachers to suit your own passions

As I said hypocrisy is a part of your life



A claim or opinion is only the truth if proven. Since you can't prove any of them and keep dodging its hearsay ;)


1. Go back and look again, it was never my claim that you can't post YT vids, I simply said don't present CGI and cartoons and pass them off as proofs. (the original claim was stating I only show YT, and I counter-argued to show me proof of a spinning ball earth without presenting CGI or cartoons)
2. I never claimed I could not prove ALL my claims, we were only talking about certain issues.
3. I did my research so I alone saw the proofs, so anything I say is hearsay and is the very REASON I tell you to go and RESEARCH for YOURSELF and not take my word for it. It won't be hearsay if YOU do the research and see it for yourself.

once again you consistently reveal your true self of someone who twists words and takes things out of context.
must I keep rebuking you?
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Quote (ChivasRegal @ Feb 14 2020 04:12pm)
1. Go back and look again, it was never my claim that you can't post YT vids, I simply said don't present CGI and cartoons and pass them off as proofs. (the original claim was stating I only show YT, and I counter-argued to show me proof of a spinning ball earth without presenting CGI or cartoons)



once again you consistently reveal your true self of someone who twists words and takes things out of context.
must I keep rebuking you?


Please like that carries any wait with all your dodging :rofl:
You an random 40 y/o uneducated with nothing to his name
Who do you think your

I never said you claimed we cant post YT. I said you chirp when we do (lens, CGI) which you do

The point is YT vids with no reference on either side of the argument are not reliable

Yes CGI is a possibilty but with no references what makes the FE vids more relaible or what guarantee is there that did not manipulate the camera or user CGI themself to manipulate the results



Quote (ChivasRegal @ Feb 14 2020 01:37am)
Yep, just a theory, meaning make believe or not true until proved.

Your own words

To date you have dodged or ended up dodging every time

Quote (ChivasRegal @ Feb 14 2020 04:12pm)

2. I never claimed I could not prove ALL my claims, we were only talking about certain issues.

I never said that

I said
"You say you can't prove your claims and you'll be dead if you do. Yet you post a troll face picture saying you did post proof so you're lying in one of those"


Quote (ChivasRegal @ Feb 14 2020 04:12pm)
3. I did my research so I alone saw the proofs, so anything I say is hearsay and is the very REASON I tell you to go and RESEARCH for YOURSELF and not take my word for it. It won't be hearsay if YOU do the research and see it for yourself.

Since you now admit your claims are hearsay you also admit they are just theories

It doesn't matter if you saw the proofs

We need to see them if you want us to accept them as proof or fact
Thats how debates work.

We did research lke your famous perpective theory
It ends with you dodging proving water in gas form or evaporation causing magnification since no such proof exist

This post was edited by kai_jph on Feb 14 2020 09:16am
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So who won?
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Quote (Firaga @ Feb 14 2020 11:38am)
So who won?


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Quote (kai_jph @ Feb 15 2020 12:18am)
We did research lke your famous perpective theory
It ends with you dodging proving water in gas form or evaporation causing magnification since no such proof exist


You truly need to stop deflecting bro. You need to understand perspective and convergence FIRST, and stop dodging it,
and THEN we can move on to the SEPARATE issue of evaporation/magnification which is a different topic.

I know you don't understand perspective and convergence and you continually deflect the subject by bringing up different topics/issues to evade it.
Stop dodging and deal with it.
Please think carefully before you reply to this post and once again deflect and bring up some other topic or excuse, because I will simply just reply with that meme pic from now on.

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Iso tl;dr
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Quote (ChivasRegal @ Feb 14 2020 11:45am)
You truly need to stop deflecting bro. You need to understand perspective and convergence FIRST, and stop dodging it,
and THEN we can move on to the SEPARATE issue of evaporation/magnification which is a different topic.

I know you don't understand perspective and convergence and you continually deflect the subject by bringing up different topics/issues to evade it.
Stop dodging and deal with it.
Please think carefully before you reply to this post and once again deflect and bring up some other topic or excuse, because I will simply just reply with that meme pic from now on.


^kai_jph

I'm on like page 300 of this friggin insane thread lol and I've seen you and I think Thor or maybe Thomas but definitely you, post multiple diagrams explaining how perspective and convergence works. How come he keeps saying you dont understand lol. Hope you're well bro.
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Quote (Firaga @ Feb 14 2020 11:47am)
Iso tl;dr


Globe earth for the win
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