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Mar 20 2021 06:49am
Quote (xfrodobagginsx @ Mar 20 2021 02:00am)
It would be wise to do so...



Agreed
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Mar 20 2021 07:58am
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If you want to go down that path then why is there something called the Big Bang Theory? Now that is something that is just that, a theory. One would need to have faith that it was the Big Bang. Just like with God, one must have faith. Who hopes for what they see? It is the things unseen for what we hope for.

What I am saying is that the order of creation points to a creator. I don't know about you but all of the big explosions I have ever seen has resulted in chaos. How can the Big Bang create order? That, I DON'T KNOW.

Let's look at the flip side, science can explain how a Rainbow is formed and yet that means it was science and not God. Based on your logic if science can explain the phenomenon then it wasn't God. If science can't explain the phenomenon then who knows if it was God? You are not giving God much of a chance are you?

I was lost for a very long time and hopelessly lost. It was only after I prayed that I went in a random direction and found my way back. Let's go down the coincidence path, wouldn't it be worthwhile to pray to God in those times nonetheless?

Again, the very first thing you said was "I don't need your research." You later go on say "Do some more research. Yours was inadequate." How can you make such a claim when, in the very same post, you admitted to not reading my research? Now that is another circumstance where you have faith about what my research is like without seeing it first hand. This is something I would like to hear your answer.


How do you know your prayers were answered by god
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Mar 20 2021 10:23pm
Quote (DiamondHands @ Mar 20 2021 08:49am)
Agreed


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Mar 21 2021 01:08am
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dont forget this part its important

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Yes thank u but I alrdy had gay sex can I still get in


yes


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Mar 21 2021 01:21am
Quote (hoipolloi @ Mar 20 2021 02:58pm)
How do you know your prayers were answered by god


God will send you a confirmation SMS with a code
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Mar 21 2021 01:31am
Quote (DiamondHands @ Mar 21 2021 03:21pm)
God will send you a confirmation SMS with a code


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Mar 21 2021 04:17am
Quote (hoipolloi @ Mar 20 2021 11:58pm)
How do you know your prayers were answered by god


I was lost for a very long time and hopelessly lost. It was only after I prayed that I went in a random direction and found my way back. It wasn't until I put my faith in God that I found my way back.

Your turn to answer my question.

Again, the very first thing you said was "I don't need your research." You later go on say "Do some more research. Yours was inadequate." How can you make such a claim when, in the very same post, you admitted to not reading my research? Now that is another circumstance where you have faith about what my research is like without seeing it first hand. This is something I would like to hear your answer.
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Mar 21 2021 06:00am
Quote (DiamondHands @ Mar 21 2021 08:21am)
God will send you a confirmation SMS with a code



Haha lol :D
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Mar 21 2021 08:42am
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I was lost for a very long time and hopelessly lost. It was only after I prayed that I went in a random direction and found my way back. It wasn't until I put my faith in God that I found my way back.

Your turn to answer my question.

Again, the very first thing you said was "I don't need your research." You later go on say "Do some more research. Yours was inadequate." How can you make such a claim when, in the very same post, you admitted to not reading my research? Now that is another circumstance where you have faith about what my research is like without seeing it first hand. This is something I would like to hear your answer.


I'm sorry but not having results and then results coming subsequent to praying does not mean it is god. That is just completely and utterly illogical. You have to demonstrate it is the case.

That's like saying you weren't getting along with your girlfriend but you started brushing your teeth with a pencil and the relationship improved. So brushing your teeth with a pencil must improve relationships

What you are engaged in is actually a fallacy. Literally fallacious thinking. That means you are transgressing the bounds of reasonable thinking. Do you even realize that?

Post hoc ergo propter hoc. After x, therefore because of x. Humans have been using faulty thinking like yours for a long time now. Aristotle and his band of merry logicians came along to set us straight. You and most other Christian' didn't get the message (sorry I assume)

I said I didn't care about your research because it isn't something you can research. Unless you went to the middle east and started digging up ancient testimonies corroborated by extra biblical sources and evidence of his rising, or independent attestations to anything relevant, it doesnt matter. People have looked. As it is there is a book making claims WHICH ARE INSUFFICIENT evidence to meet the miraculous claims it purports. The burden of proof has not been met. You are not justified in your beliefs if you want to consider yourself reasonable.

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Mar 21 2021 08:53am
You know what your argument is like.

It's like you go to a buffet and every food you try you have never had before. There are 50 food items and you take a bite of each

Then, following severe cramping and indigestion an hour later, you point to a food and say it was that one that upset my stomach! But you just ate 50 new foods. How could you possibly know what food caused it? You go back and eat them again or whatever you do to try to establish which food it was. Good.

A CLAIM must BE DEMONSTRATED to be the case if you want reason and logic on your side, you don't just get to assume things as facts. That isn't how reason works.

By the way in the case of god, you can't try the foods again. You are as far as we know, being restricted to methodological naturalism, NOT ABLE to test for god. Therefore the correct response to the god question is I DON'T KNOW, and I need more information. The burden of proof is not met. I withhold belief pending sufficient evidence.

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