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Feb 11 2020 10:19pm
Quote (ChivasRegal @ Feb 11 2020 10:16pm)
told you, suddenly u need buoyancy to make this work.....and i don't claim density and buoyancy is a force like ur claiming
you can't even get ur story straight. is gravity pulling or pushing?
back to school bro


The buoyant force is derived as an emergent part of different density materials in a gravitational field. It's in any introductory physics textbook and you can just Google the derivation.

I know you won't though because I've told you this before and you refused to do the research.

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#15392
Feb 11 2020 10:37pm
Quote (ChivasRegal @ Feb 12 2020 06:16am)
told you, suddenly u need buoyancy to make this work.....and i don't claim density and buoyancy is a force like ur claiming
you can't even get ur story straight. is gravity pulling or pushing?
back to school bro


Itony.

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=77924983&f=90&o=20

Quote (kai_jph @ Jan 18 2018 04:13pm)
what (may I ask) are your qualifications?

Quote (ChivasRegal @ Jan 19 2018 05:09am)
in what? I am qualified to post topics in this sub-forum...


Oh, Nice dodge on you evaporation magnify theory. ;)

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=77269763&f=27&o=320

Quote (ChivasRegal @ Oct 9 2017 01:45pm)
we are not supposed to learn the truth about the FE, or that would defeat the entire purpose or agenda of those who set this up.
do you really believe there is simply a link or website that reveals all the hidden proof of FE that you can just peruse at your leisure?
I'm just a regular joe like the guy next door......I don't have all the answers. If I stumble across hard undeniable proof of FE, I'd prolly be a dead man before I could upload and reveal it.


Since you still alive, we can the safely asume it is not undeniable proof and a load of bs

This post was edited by kai_jph on Feb 11 2020 10:48pm
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Feb 11 2020 11:38pm
Quote (kai_jph @ Feb 12 2020 02:07pm)
Itony.

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=77924983&f=90&o=20




Oh, Nice dodge on you evaporation magnify theory. ;)

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=77269763&f=27&o=320



Since you still alive, we can the safely asume it is not undeniable proof and a load of bs


look at you continually bringing a cold fusion topic into a flat earth discussion.
you simply have to come up with reasons and excuses just so you can keep believing in the heliocentric lies.
let your pride (ego) go man and accept the truth. I know it isn't easy, because it wasn't easy for me either.


“The Matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. But when you’re inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save.
But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged.
And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.” ~Morpheus, The Matrix

^ this is a parable describing you exactly (one of those in Bold) but where this differs, is you are not my enemy, but I am still trying to save you (unplug you or break the indoctrination)

This post was edited by ChivasRegal on Feb 11 2020 11:39pm
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Feb 12 2020 12:07am
Quote (ChivasRegal @ Feb 12 2020 07:38am)
look at you continually bringing a cold fusion topic into a flat earth discussion.
you simply have to come up with reasons and excuses just so you can keep believing in the heliocentric lies.
let your pride (ego) go man and accept the truth. I know it isn't easy, because it wasn't easy for me either.


“The Matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. But when you’re inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save.
But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged.
And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.” ~Morpheus, The Matrix

^ this is a parable describing you exactly (one of those in Bold) but where this differs, is you are not my enemy, but I am still trying to save you (unplug you or break the indoctrination)


The whole point is like that Cold fusion thread you bring a lot of science type theories and yet provide nothing credible to back them up
What scientific field are you qualified in? What makes your words alone credible?

So we are to accept the salvation of a bunch of "enlightened" people whose only source of info is youtube on their word alone. ... please

Yet again another dodge to prove one of many of your claims
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Feb 12 2020 01:29am
It's funny when a flat earther tells you to go back school but obviously he hasn't been there for a while lmao
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Feb 12 2020 06:35am
Quote (ChivasRegal @ Feb 11 2020 08:10pm)
a helium balloon floating upwards (not being pushed down) DESTROYS gravity.....and to counter this, suddenly you NEED density and buoyancy to explain why gravity has stopped working.
same argument with a block of wood or say a baseball bat that you let go of and it "falls" but when it lands on the lake or river it doesn't keep falling under water to the magic core underground....suddenly we NEED density and buoyancy to explain why gravity (this force) stopped working again.
globetard hippocracy right there...

vacuums don't suck was hilarious....I'm speechless


Do you think the vaccum he is talking about is a vaccum cleaner?

E/ I take back my previous statement that Taurean was the best. You are definitely the best LOL

This post was edited by Zepllica on Feb 12 2020 06:39am
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Feb 12 2020 09:07am
Quote (D_urRRR @ Feb 11 2020 10:53pm)
Helium balloons are pulled by gravity, as are all objects with mass. The reason they don't fall is that there is another force acting on them, a buoyant force from air pressure that is equal to the weight of the air displaced by the balloon.

The reason you don't float is that the weight of the air you displace is quite a bit less than your weight (a person is more dense than air). The reason a normal balloon doesn't float is that the weight of the air it displaces is just a little bit less than the weight of the balloon (because it is filled with air, but the rubber of the balloon itself is more dense than the air).

The analogy you want is to objects floating (or suspended) in water. Most rocks sink to the bottom, pulled by gravity, because the weight of the water they displace is less than their own weight. A bowling ball (ironically) is very close to the same density as water, so it will float suspended in mid-water, just like the helium balloon that has leaked a little bit.

Just a tad about how bouyancy works. Any fluid in a gravitational field possesses a pressure gradient, (which if the gas/liquid is in equilibrium) counterbalances the effect of gravity. Gravity acting on such a fluid creates this pressure, which is referred to a hydrostatic pressure. To make a long story short, the external pressure (of the air) is greater at the bottom of your ballon than at the top. So the net external pressure on the ballon is imbalanced, providing a net upward force equal to the weight of the displaced air.

If you put your balloon in space (I'll ignore the observation it would pop), there is no pressure, and therefore no imbalance of pressure to create the bouyancy effect.


^ChivasRegal

So since ^D_urRRR explained about how balloons can float and rocks sink, in really clear way, can you tell me what about a vaccum not sucking was so funny to you and how it left you speechless? Thanks :)
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Feb 12 2020 10:11am
Quote (ChivasRegal @ Feb 11 2020 11:16pm)
told you, suddenly u need buoyancy to make this work.....and i don't claim density and buoyancy is a force like ur claiming
you can't even get ur story straight. is gravity pulling or pushing?
back to school bro


They aren't forces, you're right, just did a simple copy paste explaining how gravity exists and how a balloon doesn't get pulled down.

Gravity is being pulled towards Earths core.

You're claiming gravity doesn't exist or that these 2 things destroy the possibility of it, when in fact gravity is at play. You're literally saying out loud that density or buoyancy plays a role when comes to gravity, but you at the same time say gravity doesn't exist.

I can't get my story straight though? Lol.

Also why was the vacuum part funny?

Explain how a vacuum sucks. And no, don't refer to a vacuum cleaner.

This post was edited by D_urRRR on Feb 12 2020 10:40am
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Feb 12 2020 10:14am
Quote (Melatonina @ Feb 12 2020 02:29am)
It's funny when a flat earther tells you to go back school but obviously he hasn't been there for a while lmao


Yep lol.
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#15400
Feb 12 2020 01:40pm
^ChivasRegal

How are you doing? So obviously we aren't going to agree about the shape of the earth, that much is clear. But I do wonder what difference would it really make? In what way would your existence here fundamentally change, whether the earth is flat or not?

Can you explain this to me?

I only ask because it seems as though this is the hill you've chosen to die on, so to speak, so to believe something so deeply would be very important to you.

Will you give me some examples of how your day to day physical interactions in your life would change if what you so strongly believe to be true were in fact true?
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