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Which would you prefer? Capitalism vs Communism.


Social democracy with the means of production in the hands of the capable and the proceeds used to support the people.
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Social democracy with the means of production in the hands of the capable and the proceeds used to support the people.


Support the people how?
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Support the people how?


Universal basic income, free healthcare and education.
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Universal basic income, free healthcare and education.


Free health care and education is definitely the right thing to do. I wonder about the universal basic income. On the surface it sounds great right? But I wonder if some of the arguments against it have some truth to them?

I'm certainly for society as a whole providing for those who cannot provide for themselves. But to blanket it into a universal policy....who would be the ones generating income if they didn't have to?

Capitalism has its faults, there is no doubt of that. Recognizing those faults and holding individuals accountable for committing crimes is necessary I'm not sure about the universal basic income argument. Human beings need to have goals, not be spoon fed.
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Free health care and education is definitely the right thing to do. I wonder about the universal basic income. On the surface it sounds great right? But I wonder if some of the arguments against it have some truth to them?

I'm certainly for society as a whole providing for those who cannot provide for themselves. But to blanket it into a universal policy....who would be the ones generating income if they didn't have to?

Capitalism has its faults, there is no doubt of that. Recognizing those faults and holding individuals accountable for committing crimes is necessary I'm not sure about the universal basic income argument. Human beings need to have goals, not be spoon fed.


Automation will make it pretty much a redundant conversation, but those who produce more will obviously earn more.
I worked extra hours for years so i could retire young, many will choose to live on the ubi, and that will leave jobs for the motivated to get ahead.

The biggest lie we ever told is that we have to work for some corporation to feel satisfied in life.
I have been retired for a few months and i have never been happier.

This post was edited by Plaguefear on Jan 26 2020 09:48pm
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Automation will make it pretty much a redundant conversation, but those who produce more will obviously earn more.
I worked extra hours for years so i could retire young, many will choose to live on the ubi, and that will leave jobs for the motivated to get ahead.

The biggest lie we ever told is that we have to work for some corporation to feel satisfied in life.
I have been retired for a few months and i have never been happier.


Congratulations sir. I've got 15 maybe 20yrs left in the ironworking racket before the wife and I can hang up our hats.
I agree there should be regulation in terms of what corporations are worth compared to employees, and you're absolutely right about automation in various sectors.

I'm just not sold on the ubi yet. Who knows!! Maybe I'm way off. Time will tell!

This post was edited by Zepllica on Jan 26 2020 10:29pm
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Globe! :D
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Globe! :D


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