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Sep 22 2019 05:17am
Quote (Melatonina @ Sep 22 2019 08:35pm)
Water is blue


in a large volume, yes.
interesting huh
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tell me more about dome

Genesis 1:6

And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
And God called the firmament Heaven.

points to note are that God spent an entire "day" just creating this physical dome or firmament.
he created all the oceans, lands and the plants, trees and shrubs in a "day" but took an entire day alone just for the "molten glass" dome.


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Quote (kai_jph @ 22 Sep 2019 11:52)
So if we using the Bible where does it say this dome is impenetrable or that it is a molten glass like dome?

Job 37:18 (KJV)
18 Hast thou with him spread out the sky, which is strong, and as a molten looking glass?

the translation "looking glass" gives the reader the clear understanding that it is "transparent" which would explain why we can see the blue water (sky) through it when we look up during the day.

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Quote (ChivasRegal @ Sep 22 2019 12:18pm)
Job 37:18 (KJV)
18 Hast thou with him spread out the sky, which is strong, and as a molten looking glass?

the translation "looking glass" gives the reader the clear understanding that it is "transparent" which would explain why we can see the blue water (sky) through it when we look up during the day.


Ok I'll give that verse saying "like moltern glass"
It was said by Elihu, one of Job's friends

Other translations

NKJV : With Him, have you spread out the skies, Strong as a cast metal mirror

(You'll like these)
NIV : can you join him in spreading out the skies, hard as a mirror of cast bronze?
ESV : Can you, like him, spread out the skies, hard as a cast metal mirror?

Now as I said before , the Bible:
1) it was written in hebrew and aramaic
As a result we have many translations like you see above
2) even though it was believed to be inspired by God it was written by people who could make mistakes and knew less about the world than we do today

To start (if we look at this scientifically) how did Elihu come by this information?

This post was edited by kai_jph on Sep 22 2019 06:15am
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Quote (kai_jph @ Sep 22 2019 09:22pm)
Ok I'll give that verse saying "like moltern glass)
It was said by Elihu, of Job's friends

Other translations

NKJV : With Him, have you spread out the skies, Strong as a cast metal mirror

(You'll like these)
NIV : can you join him in spreading out the skies, hard as a mirror of cast bronze?
ESV : Can you, like him, spread out the skies, hard as a cast metal mirror?

Now as I said before the Bible
1) it was written in hebrew and aramaic
As a result we have many translations like you see above
2) even though it was believed to be inspired by God it was written by people who could make mistakes and knew less about the world than we do today

To start (if we look at this scientifically) how did Elihu come by this information?


either way, all the translations suggest it is a strong physical barrier, holding back a lot of water above the stationary flat earth.

All the Bible authors were prophets, they were given visions or dreams about future events, and a lot of them are about the last days before Jesus returns.
Baruch (from the Book of Baruch) who was the scribe of Jeremiah and lived around 600 B.C. describes eerily similar events of his visions about the last days that seem to match almost perfectly with what John writes about in the Book of Revelation (some 700+ years later) from his visions.
2 people who have a different perspective of what they describe they are seeing in their visions.

Can 2 scientists have a different perspective or interpretation of an experiment they perform or witness?
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Quote (ChivasRegal @ Sep 22 2019 02:28pm)
either way, all the translations suggest it is a strong physical barrier, holding back a lot of water above the stationary flat earth.

All the Bible authors were prophets, they were given visions or dreams about future events, and a lot of them are about the last days before Jesus returns.
Baruch (from the Book of Baruch) who was the scribe of Jeremiah and lived around 600 B.C. describes eerily similar events of his visions about the last days that seem to match almost perfectly with what John writes about in the Book of Revelation (some 700+ years later) from his visions.
2 people who have a different perspective of what they describe they are seeing in their visions.

Can 2 scientists have a different perspective or interpretation of an experiment they perform or witness?


Here's the problem now
If you are going to a scientific debate with an audience, are you going to use the argument "the Lord told him"?
Especially since many will not be theastic

While I agree prophets existed there is no reference to Elihu being a prophet especially since God condemned his words and attitude to Job at the end of the story

Thus the chance is high he decribed it and interpretted it as he saw and understood.

Another thing to bear in mind is that the Bible was also written figuratively
If we take the "metal" translations literally we have a problem with the theory of the "done" being transparent

You need to check the original hebrew to get a clearer picture

(Next point to discuss)

This post was edited by kai_jph on Sep 22 2019 07:31am
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Sep 22 2019 02:11pm
some goat sex offender from antiquity got a vision during drugs trips. this is the kind of authority we should all blindly believe haha

seems legit :D b) XD
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STOP GLOBAL WARMING! TIME TO FLIP FLAT EARTH! :D :rofl:
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Sep 28 2019 01:22am
MOLTEN LIKE WHEN METEORITES BURN UP IN THE ATMOSPHERE?

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Sep 28 2019 02:40am
Quote (caswallen @ Sep 28 2019 04:52pm)
MOLTEN LIKE WHEN METEORITES BURN UP IN THE ATMOSPHERE?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mobtxEJHhY4


do you have any proof of these meteorites that isn't hearsay, CGI or cartoons?
and can you also prove beyond a doubt that any said presented footage is not a flare or fireworks?

I'll wait..
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Quote (ChivasRegal @ Sep 28 2019 09:40am)
do you have any proof of these meteorites that isn't hearsay, CGI or cartoons?
and can you also prove beyond a doubt that any said presented footage is not a flare or fireworks?

I'll wait..


I find it funny that someone who deeply believes in a bearded man that died, then turned into a zombie 3 days later, actually asks for proofs.




Do you have any proofs of this zombie jesus of yours, and lets not include 2000 years old sci-fi book that was changed 100 times through history depending on how it benefited the ones in lead at the given moment?
and can you also prove beyond a doubt that said character is the one and only true god, while thousands of other ones from numerous religions through history are fake?

I'll wait..

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