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Aug 8 2019 08:40pm
Quote (card_sultan @ Aug 9 2019 03:50am)


wrong - i said it was explosive and show how when you combine it with hydrogen it creates a supersonic explosion, obviously "detonation" is beyond your understanding.
Santa-Ra made the obtuse claim and i showed it burning in a propane atmosphere'


Which is it acting like an oxidiser

Quote (card_sultan @ Aug 5 2019 06:26pm)
Oxygen safety warnings also list oxygen as flammable and explosive


Quote (card_sultan @ Aug 5 2019 06:45pm)
like this https://imgur.com/IbH5BcT

see where is says "extremely flammable"


Hmmm
Seems the word 'burn" and" flammable" is beyond your understanding



Quote (card_sultan @ Aug 9 2019 03:50am)

perfect description of you - 100% confidence - 1% experience, nice job of debunking yourself


Actually debunking you when (as usual) your "experience" is all gained from youtube posters

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Aug 8 2019 08:53pm
Quote (card_sultan @ Aug 8 2019 08:50pm)
I never said oxygen in a nitrogen atmosphere is flammable by itself , this is something you keep asserting that i never said
and the other clowns are like - what a good point. I demonstrated it was explosive when combined with hydrogen and both elements are in Air.

wrong - i said it was explosive and show how when you combine it with hydrogen it creates a supersonic explosion, obviously "detonation" is beyond your understanding.
Santa-Ra made the obtuse claim and i showed it burning in a propane atmosphere'


Oxygen by itself is not explosive either.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_explosive

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For a chemical to be an explosive, it must exhibit all of the following:

Rapid expansion (i.e., rapid production of gases or rapid heating of surroundings)
Evolution of heat
Rapidity of reaction
Initiation of reaction


...and generally speaking, things that are explosive are also flammable (evolution of heat).

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Gets his "Science" from Hearsay of Gas pump sniffers/10


Coming from someone with zero science on the aircraft at all? Lulz.
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DEUS VULT!

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Quote (Santara @ Aug 8 2019 10:53pm)
Oxygen by itself is not explosive either.

[URL=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_explosive]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_explosive[/URL]

...and generally speaking, things that are explosive are also flammable (evolution of heat).

Coming from someone with zero science on the aircraft at all? Lulz.


Stop making claims i never said, Oxygen combines with other gases to become explosive , all are available in the air - or they could be getting the oxygen from the air
and pumping in compressed hydrogen with a gas scent to fool people

Gas pumpers are Airplane scientists/10
classic Santa-Ra derp

Quote (kai_jph @ Aug 8 2019 10:40pm)
Which is it acting like an oxidiser

Seems the word 'burn" and" flammable" is beyond your understanding

Actually debunking you when (as usual) your "experience" is all gained from youtube posters


Detonation is a type of combustion involving a supersonic exothermic front accelerating through a medium that eventually drives a shock front propagating directly in front of it.
Combustion
n. The process of burning.
n. A chemical change, especially oxidation, accompanied by the production of heat and light.
n. Violent anger or agitation.

so it seems you don't understand "burning" but are conflating your lack of understanding and projecting it onto me - i bet you do this in life too
blame others for what makes you feel dumb

Keep getting your science from books you never read and watching TV

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Quote (card_sultan @ Aug 8 2019 10:40pm)
Stop making claims i never said, Oxygen combines with other gases to become explosive , all are available in the air - or they could be getting the oxygen from the air
and pumping in compressed hydrogen with a gas scent to fool people

Gas pumpers are Airplane scientists/10
classic Santa-Ra derp


@ bold: no, that is what we've been telling YOU.

The only element in the air oxygen could help combust is already trapped as water vapor, and therefore not readily available for combustion.

Not only did he fuel aircraft, he was involved in airframe repair. He's also a history buff on aircraft. He is everything you are not regarding aircraft: knowledgeable.
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Aug 8 2019 10:43pm
Quote (Santara @ Aug 8 2019 11:45pm)
@ bold: no, that is what we've been telling YOU.

The only element in the air oxygen could help combust is already trapped as water vapor, and therefore not readily available for combustion.

Not only did he fuel aircraft, he was involved in airframe repair. He's also a history buff on aircraft. He is everything you are not regarding aircraft: knowledgeable.


no - you assumed cause you're taught only to think Oxygen doesnt burn -when its actually: oxygen wont burn in a nitrogen atmosphere or it will burn when you combine it with other gas
and calling it an oxidizer is keeping you from thinking

none of surpunks gas pumping or being a airplane buff or framing makes him knowledgeable about the workings of Jet Airplanes, that your using him for a source shows how desperate you are to make a plea to anecdotal evidence to cover up how weak this is:.
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Aug 8 2019 11:31pm
Quote (card_sultan @ Aug 9 2019 05:40am)
Detonation is a type of combustion involving a supersonic exothermic front accelerating through a medium that eventually drives a shock front propagating directly in front of it.
Combustion
n. The process of burning.
n. A chemical change, especially oxidation, accompanied by the production of heat and light.
n. Violent anger or agitation.

so it seems you don't understand "burning" but are conflating your lack of understanding and projecting it onto me - i bet you do this in life too
blame others for what makes you feel dumb

Keep getting your science from books you never read and watching TV

Books I did read ;)

That definition is common knowledge straight from wikipedia , the ductionary and other sources

Lets add
Burning
adjective
aflame; on fire.

noun
the state, process, sensation, or effect of being on fire, burned, or subjected to intense heat.

(In plain simple english)The question is does O2 do that?
No It supports other fuels doing it

Like you just said
"A chemical change, especially oxidation, accompanied by the production of heat and light"

Without a source of oxygen a fuel will not burn

This post was edited by kai_jph on Aug 8 2019 11:32pm
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Aug 9 2019 12:29am
Quote (card_sultan @ Aug 8 2019 09:40pm)
Stop making claims i never said, Oxygen combines with other gases to become explosive , all are available in the air - or they could be getting the oxygen from the air
and pumping in compressed hydrogen with a gas scent to fool people

Gas pumpers are Airplane scientists/10
classic Santa-Ra derp



Detonation is a type of combustion involving a supersonic exothermic front accelerating through a medium that eventually drives a shock front propagating directly in front of it.
Combustion
n. The process of burning.
n. A chemical change, especially oxidation, accompanied by the production of heat and light.
n. Violent anger or agitation.

so it seems you don't understand "burning" but are conflating your lack of understanding and projecting it onto me - i bet you do this in life too
blame others for what makes you feel dumb

Keep getting your science from books you never read and watching TV



There are no flammable components in air unless you happen to be in a well shack with a leaking pipe.
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Quote (kai_jph @ Aug 9 2019 01:31am)
Books I did read ;)

That definition is common knowledge straight from wikipedia , the ductionary and other sources

Lets add
Burning
adjective
aflame; on fire.

noun
the state, process, sensation, or effect of being on fire, burned, or subjected to intense heat.

(In plain simple english)The question is does O2 do that?
No It supports other fuels doing it

Like you just said
"A chemical change, especially oxidation, accompanied by the production of heat and light"

Without a source of oxygen a fuel will not burn


and with oxygen - they both "burn"
Detonation is a type of combustion involving a supersonic exothermic front accelerating through a medium that eventually drives a shock front propagating directly in front of it.
Combustion
n. The process of burning.
n. A chemical change, especially oxidation, accompanied by the production of heat and light.
n. Violent anger or agitation.

You read The Principia did you? Perhaps you can quote me the passage where Newton proves Grabbity. go ahead and try - make me laugh

lol

Quote (remco6 @ Aug 9 2019 02:29am)
There are no flammable components in air unless you happen to be in a well shack with a leaking pipe.


Detonation is a type of combustion involving a supersonic exothermic front accelerating
through a medium that eventually drives a shock front propagating directly in front of it.
Combustion
n. The process of burning.
n. A chemical change, especially oxidation, accompanied by the production of heat and light.
n. Violent anger or agitation.

Air has oxygen and hydrogen, your flammable argument is incorrect Science as usual
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Aug 9 2019 05:36am
Quote (card_sultan @ Aug 8 2019 11:43pm)
no - you assumed cause you're taught only to think Oxygen doesnt burn -when its actually: oxygen wont burn in a nitrogen atmosphere or it will burn when you combine it with other gas
and calling it an oxidizer is keeping you from thinking

none of surpunks gas pumping or being a airplane buff or framing makes him knowledgeable about the workings of Jet Airplanes, that your using him for a source shows how desperate you are to make a plea to anecdotal evidence to cover up how weak this is:.


Oxygen doesn't burn in ANY atmosphere.

I'm sorry, what was your source again? Oh yeah! Nothing.
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