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Aug 18 2017 02:54am
Quote (card_sultan @ Aug 18 2017 10:51am)
You trust everything Nasa says, in my opinion that kinda blind trust when they have clearly been caught lying so many times is not looking at them critically considering how important their role is.
It funny how people woulda said before this is a non issue before but when you get into it - that's all you can think about.


I just told you I didnt believe in the GE from NASA

Even still. You have yet to answer a common asked question.
What does the government have to gain from conning us into believing the earth is a globe?
whether the earth is flat or globe what difference will it make on our everyday lives?
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Aug 18 2017 02:58am
Quote (kai_jph @ Aug 18 2017 04:54am)
I just told you I didnt believe in the GE from NASA

Even still. You have yet to answer a common asked question.
What does the government have to gain from conning us into believing the earth is a globe?
whether the earth is flat or globe what difference will it make on our everyday lives?


Literally no reason at all
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Aug 18 2017 02:59am
Quote (ChivasRegal @ Aug 18 2017 10:52am)
I stand by my statement, we live in an enclosed system/realm (being the dome/firmament) beyond the dome is water, not more land and certainly not "outer space"


And I respect your opinion
But now we have card believing in it that map system with more land beyond the Ice wall and an infinite plane

so now who's belief do we go with?

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Quote (DeanofDazzle @ Aug 18 2017 10:58am)
Literally no reason at all


Fully agree
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Quote (kai_jph @ Aug 17 2017 10:44pm)
Heres a classic example on inconsistency

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=76076473&f=27&o=90







So now is that map system above BS or not?


Chivas strictly approachs FE from the Biblical sense and use the Snowglobe model.

I use ancient Cosmology and am interested in a whole bunch of theories, as to which is 100% correct i dont know, just know thats its not a spinning globe.

I dont see a problem with our slightly different approaches and beliefs - i think you do. Theres a lot of free thinking in FE and if you like controled thinking its probably better to keep thinking we live on a spinning ball.

This post was edited by card_sultan on Aug 18 2017 03:01am
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Chivas strictly approach FE from the Biblical sense and use the Snowglobe model

I use ancient Cosmology and am interested in a whole bunch of theories, as to which is 100% correct i dont know, just know thats its not a spinning globe.

I dont see a problem with our slightly different appoarch and believes - i think you do. There a lot of free thinking in FE and if you like controled thinking it brobably better to keep thinking we live on a ball.


Fine but just above he again said your model is false

Theres a big difference between water and no land beyond the Ice wall with a dome covering the earth
and you with more land beyond the wall with an infinite plain
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Aug 18 2017 03:04am
Quote (card_sultan @ Aug 18 2017 05:00am)
Chivas strictly approach FE from the Biblical sense and use the Snowglobe model

I use ancient Cosmology and am interested in a whole bunch of theories, as to which is 100% correct i dont know, just know thats its not a spinning globe.

I dont see a problem with our slightly different appoarch and believes - i think you do. There a lot of free thinking in FE and if you like controled thinking it brobably better to keep thinking we live on a ball.


In what way is thinking that there is potentially infinite galaxies and space not considered free thinking? Not to mention infinite possibilities for how it all even exists and works.
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Quote (kai_jph @ Aug 17 2017 10:59pm)
And I respect your opinion
But now we have card believing in it that map system with more land beyond the Ice wall and an infinite plane

so now who's belief do we go with?


There are no facts, only opinions. When you really look into it, the ball is just an opinion, not a fact.

If you want to stick to the Bible, id definitely go with Chivas's model. Thats directly from scripture.

But also be aware that our believe in the Ball comes directly from Religion as it was sold to the state.
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Quote (kai_jph @ Aug 18 2017 06:29pm)
And I respect your opinion
But now we have card believing in it that map system with more land beyond the Ice wall and an infinite plane

so now who's belief do we go with?


It will always come back down to Faith....ALWAYS

Fact is, there is no definitive, irrefutable proof that we live on a globe.....same deal for the flat earth.....it all rests on what you CHOOSE to believe (have faith in)....believe in a globe earth, or believe in a flat earth.

Our creator gave all of us Freewill, each one of us, we have to choose, but keep in mind, our choices will have consequences (or repercussions) when we face Judgement Day
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Quote (DeanofDazzle @ Aug 17 2017 11:04pm)
In what way is thinking that there is potentially infinite galaxies and space not considered free thinking? Not to mention infinite possibilities for how it all even exists and works.


I think your confusing the idea of the infinite endless vacuum of space (which wasn't big enough so they added infinite multiple universes) and the space in between your ears which is solid matter.

No one is ever leaving Earth.

Quote (kai_jph @ Aug 17 2017 11:03pm)
Fine but just above he again said your model is false

Theres a big difference between water and no land beyond the Ice wall with a dome covering the earth
and you with more land beyond the wall with an infinite plain


No, i didn't say his model is false, i just said there is more than 1 model in FE

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