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Aug 5 2019 07:23am
"perspective matrix" seems very legit :rofl: I bet closest he got to a matrix was the movie.

This post was edited by Crud1ty on Aug 5 2019 07:23am
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Aug 5 2019 07:30am
Quote (Santara @ Aug 5 2019 10:27pm)
Way fucking way back at the beginning of the thread (3rd page), Chivas proposed to explain the sun setting over the horizon being explained with (his words) law of perspective and convergence. When asked if you also agreed with his assessment, you resoundingly endorsed it:



Then started telling us for the next 500+ pages that we are the ones who "don't understand perspective" but have refused to quantify perspective or provide a falsifiable test to prove it.


try this then:
on a flat surface (plane) the horizon will always meet the observer at eye level regardless of how high they ascend.
on a sphere where the surface is always moving down and away from the observer the perceived edge or cuvature (horizon) will eventually disappear from view as the observer ascends higher and higher.

Now explain this using math
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Aug 5 2019 07:39am
Quote (ChivasRegal @ Aug 5 2019 03:30pm)
try this then:
on a flat surface (plane) the horizon will always meet the observer at eye level regardless of how high they ascend.
on a sphere where the surface is always moving down and away from the observer the perceived edge or cuvature (horizon) will eventually disappear from view as the observer ascends higher and higher.

Now explain this using math


Steps for getting to that conclusion:
1. You went outside.
2. You thought "Oh, it seems like the horizon is more-or-less eye level".
3. You thought "Well, I guess that proves that the horizon always meets the observer at eye level".

No actual experiments, no actual tests, no actual numbers or calculations. And you wonder why nobody takes you seriously.
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Aug 5 2019 07:39am
Quote (ChivasRegal @ Aug 5 2019 12:54am)
aaaaaaand replies with hearsay...


The statement that lighting a match in our atmosphere will result in an explosion is so stupid it doesn’t require special proof.
Compressed air contains oxygen which is necessary for combustion, nothing happens without both a flame and fuel in a desirable ratio.
The observation that we exist and can breathe the still present oxygen in our atmosphere is your proof that compressed air isn’t flammable.
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Aug 5 2019 07:41am
Quote (kai_jph @ Aug 5 2019 08:55am)
Your opinion of dome composition changed then?


troll cant answer questions, dodges them by asking irrelevant questions


Quote (Santara @ Aug 5 2019 08:57am)
Way fucking way back at the beginning of the thread (3rd page), Chivas proposed to explain the sun setting over the horizon being explained with (his words) law of perspective and convergence. When asked if you also agreed with his assessment, you resoundingly endorsed it.
Then started telling us for the next 500+ pages that we are the ones who "don't understand perspective" but have refused to quantify perspective or provide a falsifiable test to prove it.


I am not Chivas , but if he said it was a law - hes kinda correct - absolutely every you see is influenced by it, but if you dont personally agree you think this gives you a right to personally troll them forever- "mr. this link is from ABC". It's true, that you dont understand perspective, math is just an abstraction - trying to fit zero point optical perspective into an abstract concept shows that you dont understand what math is. You doubt perspective is a real thing? oh wow - i didn't understand how lost you were.
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Aug 5 2019 07:42am
Quote (Leevee @ Aug 5 2019 11:09pm)
Steps for getting to that conclusion:
1. You went outside.
2. You thought "Oh, it seems like the horizon is more-or-less eye level".
3. You thought "Well, I guess that proves that the horizon always meets the observer at eye level".

No actual experiments, no actual tests, no actual numbers or calculations. And you wonder why nobody takes you seriously.


now read post #14178
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Aug 5 2019 07:43am
Quote (card_sultan @ Aug 5 2019 03:41pm)
troll cant answer questions, dodges them by asking irrelevant questions


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irony.
As pointed out by you a Sociopath accuses others of things he is guilty of
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Aug 5 2019 07:56am
Quote (Crud1ty @ Aug 5 2019 09:23am)
"perspective matrix" seems very legit :rofl: I bet closest he got to a matrix was the movie.


I bet you've never been beyond the curve you think is the horizon, if you cant - then your in the matrix.

Quote (ChivasRegal @ Aug 5 2019 09:30am)
try this then:
on a flat surface (plane) the horizon will always meet the observer at eye level regardless of how high they ascend.
on a sphere where the surface is always moving down and away from the observer the perceived edge or cuvature (horizon) will eventually disappear from view as the observer ascends higher and higher.

Now explain this using math


nice
Quote (Leevee @ Aug 5 2019 09:39am)
Steps for getting to that conclusion:
1. You went outside.
2. You thought "Oh, it seems like the horizon is more-or-less eye level".
3. You thought "Well, I guess that proves that the horizon always meets the observer at eye level".

No actual experiments, no actual tests, no actual numbers or calculations. And you wonder why nobody takes you seriously.


No a 6 foot tall man and and 3 foot tall bot both look at the horizon at eye level, why is that?
you are at you 1sr floor apartment - you look out and see another building in front of the beach, you see the horizon is a almost the same level as the first floor.
your friend calls you up to his 30th floor - you look out his window and see the horizon in now 30 stories up - why?


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Quote (card_sultan @ Aug 5 2019 04:56pm)
I bet you've never been beyond the curve you think is the horizon, if you cant - then your in the matrix.


Clearly you have deep understanding of a matrix :rofl:
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Aug 5 2019 08:00am
Quote (card_sultan @ Aug 5 2019 03:56pm)
No a 6 foot tall man and and 3 foot tall bot both look at the horizon at eye level, why is that?
you are at you 1sr floor apartment - you look out and see another building in front of the beach, you see the horizon is a almost the same level as the first floor.
your friend calls you up to his 30th floor - you look out his window and see the horizon in now 30 stories up - why?


None of these are observations I've ever made in my life, so I don't really see why you are asking these questions.

Besides, even if they were actual observations, they'd still be 100% anecdotal evidence. In other words: not objective, not falsifiable and not relevant in any discussion about science.

This post was edited by Leevee on Aug 5 2019 08:00am
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