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Aug 5 2019 04:51am
Quote (ChivasRegal @ Aug 5 2019 12:43pm)
See this is the fundamental problem, if nasa or boeing show cartoon drawings you just auto believe it as truth.
You blindly accept hearsay as credible evidence or fact. You literally just proved this very point.

Saying "but why would they lie?" is just being ignorant and doesn't qualify as a rebuttal.


Here's the thing. I've never relied on Nasa as a reference for the shape or state of the earth
I've discussed this with Card a lot.

You FE'ers are the ones convincing me by adding your own explanation to the phenomenon people experience (like the sun setting or ship going over horizon) with no credible reference other than your word and others who believe as you do
You also claim things exist like the impenetrable dome or Ice wall but even claim you can't prove it due to whatever government agency police's/monitors it

As far as boeing is concerned we talking about tech specs of the plane so who better to get it from?

Still for both I don't tell you to believe anything. You however tell us to.
That being the case where do you get your info from besides youtube?

This post was edited by kai_jph on Aug 5 2019 04:59am
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Aug 5 2019 05:12am
Jesus how I love this topic! XD :D
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Quote (kai_jph @ Aug 5 2019 12:32am)
I never asked anyone to accept my belief, Chivas did.
This is now a religious debate as well since Chivas is now saying we going to hell if we don't accept

The FE has never been proven beyond the words of other FE'ers
So if he can't prove a theory he claims to be the truth, we are are under no obligation to accept

You also spammed this thread btw




Because thats how many FE believe the FE to work with no land beyond the Ice Wall and the dome touching the ends of the Ice Wall

Its thus obviously closer


your beliefs are a joke and you should be ashamed you expect people to believe them
your are also a troller and spammer
if you insist the dome is closer to antarctica, then prove it, otherwise it just a useless troll point, from a shitposting troller
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Aug 5 2019 05:30am
This is the best topic ever! I really didn't knew people really believe in this crap :D
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Aug 5 2019 05:32am
Quote (card_sultan @ Aug 5 2019 01:20pm)
your beliefs are a joke and you should be ashamed you expect people to believe them
your are also a troller and spammer
if you insist the dome is closer to antarctica, then prove it, otherwise it just a useless troll point, from a shitposting troller


Thats the thing. I dont expect people to believe them

Chivas however expects us to accept his beliefs but can't prove any of it

As far as the dome goes, how is it not closer if it touches the other side if the Ice Wall (ie Antarctica)?

Its a FE claim from Chivas at least so he's the one who needs to prove it
(No lands beyond Ice Wall)
If his model has changed well then he needs to update us.

You get your FE info from random YT posters and cant prove them by your own admission.
Yet you claim we're stupid for believing different. Quite a joke

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Aug 5 2019 05:38am
Quote (ChivasRegal @ Aug 4 2019 10:58pm)
the original subject got derailed in my opinion, because we were originally talking about compressed air.
We established that compressed air is flammable.
So: compressed air + a spark = ?


No, "we" have not. You have, and I have shown you why your interpretation of what was said is wrong.

Quote (ChivasRegal @ Aug 5 2019 12:28am)
What Card and I were both trying to get at with the compressed air discussion was another level of deception that you all are oblivious too.
You are so enraged and determined to defend science that you missed the obvious clues we were trying to walk you through...

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Ti8hZzC9vso/maxresdefault.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/PzWbBco.jpg

If you truly believe those tiny thin wings can hold over 126,000 litres of fuel (or a 20 x 40 feet swimming pool) weighing over 101 tonnes (just the fuel alone) and that plane could get off the ground,
Well then we truly can't help you with your strong delusions. Keep the denial real and go back to sleep.


Deception? Plane getting off the ground? Your logical fallacies are the appeal to conspiracy and the appeal to incredulity. You obviously have no understanding of fuel dispersal all over the aircraft. 126,000 liters of fuel aren't stored in just the wings. They're stored in fuselage tanks and the sponsons that the wings extend from. The wings themselves hold only a fraction of the total fuel a jumbo jet can carry.
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Aug 5 2019 05:42am
Quote (Santara @ Aug 5 2019 09:08pm)
Deception? Plane getting off the ground? Your logical fallacies are the appeal to conspiracy and the appeal to incredulity. You obviously have no understanding of fuel dispersal all over the aircraft. 126,000 liters of fuel aren't stored in just the wings. They're stored in fuselage tanks and the sponsons that the wings extend from. The wings themselves hold only a fraction of the total fuel a jumbo jet can carry.


aaaaaaand provides hearsay only...
I'll wait for the cartoon pics in ur next reply ok.
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Aug 5 2019 05:47am
Quote (ChivasRegal @ Aug 5 2019 06:42am)
aaaaaaand provides hearsay only...
I'll wait for the cartoon pics in ur next reply ok.


Your assertion that all the fuel is stored in just the wings is hearsay. You get what you give.
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Aug 5 2019 05:53am
Quote (ChivasRegal @ Aug 5 2019 01:42pm)
aaaaaaand provides hearsay only...
I'll wait for the cartoon pics in ur next reply ok.


https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=77269763&f=27&o=6510
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=77269763&f=27&o=6520

Quote (ChivasRegal @ Mar 21 2018 07:25am)
I'll listen to information being presented as hearsay, but I won't accept it as the absolute truth, until I can personally verify that information first hand.

Information you provided ;)


https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=76076473&f=27&o=2910
Quote (ChivasRegal @ Sep 12 2017 01:36pm)
to put it as simply as possible, so u may understand how it is its own light source:

earth is flat and stationary
dome above with stars attached
water above the dome
center of flat earth is called north pole and has a giant magnet (mountain)
sun and moon rotate around FE using electro magnetism
dome slowly rotates 24 hours per one revolution each day with the water as a conductor creating the electrical field
this electrical field is what charges the sun and moon creating its own light source


More hearsay since you have never proven this

This post was edited by kai_jph on Aug 5 2019 05:54am
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Quote (kai_jph @ Aug 5 2019 06:51am)
Here's the thing. I've never relied on Nasa as a reference for the shape or state of the earth
I've discussed this with Card a lot.


what shape is that? And what convinced you of earth's shape?

Quote (kai_jph @ Aug 5 2019 06:51am)
You FE'ers are the ones convincing me by adding your own explanation to the phenomenon people experience (like the sun setting or ship going over horizon) with no credible reference other than your word and others who believe as you do



Where is the Science to explain ships going over the horizon and the Setting sun? What device do you use to measure an optical phenomena with? - What is the Horizon?


Quote (kai_jph @ Aug 5 2019 06:51am)
You also claim things exist like the impenetrable dome or Ice wall but even claim you can't prove it due to whatever government agency police's/monitors

Scientist reported on an impenetrable shield in space and please explain why you believe in the edge of space but haven't even seen a picture of it?
Oh that's right - you're a hypocrite and troll - you dont use logic - i get it.

Quote (kai_jph @ Aug 5 2019 06:51am)
As far as boeing is concerned we talking about tech specs of the plane so who better to get it from?

Still for both I don't tell you to believe anything. You however tell us to.


So by your logic - What better sources of information then the person(s) guilty of a cover up? oh tah Sherlock

Also, no one tells you to what to believe, the choice is yours - dont blame others for your own choices, no is forcing you to do anything
This is why you are a troll, you've been told this 50 times and you dont get it


Quote (kai_jph @ Aug 5 2019 06:51am)
That being the case where do you get your info from besides youtube?


Where do you get your sources from - astro priest working for the state?

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