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Aug 3 2019 01:14pm
Quote (hunter_1 @ Aug 3 2019 03:10pm)
Why can I see satellites? Don’t even need telescope
You can see them in the night sky passing by
Then they come back again


I think what you are seeing is an airplane - take some video and maybe you'll be the one to blow this whole thing up.
Go for it - nothing stopping you - or do you think years of trolling would suit you better?
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Aug 3 2019 01:18pm
Quote (card_sultan @ Aug 3 2019 09:09pm)
You're incessant whining about the Ice Wall is an irrelevant childish point. It amount to someone asking how do we know the ocean has a bottom, i've never seen a continuous picture of it, yet you except the edge of space - have you ever seen a continuous picture of it? Hardly, so that called a hypocritical point - the only kind you ever have. The fact remains that bodies of water need a container, you can't incist gravity is a container unkess you demonstrate it and you can't - keep worshipping your completely useless paper earth model that doesnt work.

I believe the stars are inside the dome and a result of sonoluminescence and the proof for the Dome was that scientists found an "impenetrable barrier" (their words) at 12,000 miles up, sounds like a firmament to me.


The Ice Wall is just an example of something you can't prove. You have yet to credibly verify it and thus your container theory
You claim our belief is wrong but thus have not proven yours to be more correct

So if the stars are inside the dome here's a prob. The antarctic Ice Wall is closer to the dome than other continents
The Stars should thus be closer and should appear larger there but they don't

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Aug 3 2019 01:19pm
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I think what you are seeing is an airplane - take some video and maybe you'll be the one to blow this whole thing up.
Go for it - nothing stopping you - or do you think years of trolling would suit you better?



Airplanes have blinking lights on the bottom
These do not
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The Ice Wall is just an example of something you can't prove. You have yet to credibly prove it and thus your container theory

So if the stars are inside the dome here's a prob. The antarctic Ice Wall is closer to the dome than other continents
The Stars should thus be closer and should appear larger there but they don't


you cant credibly prove the edge of space or that the Ocean has a bottom or the steak i ate last night came from a Cow, so as usually - your point is moot[but that won't stop a troll like yourself will it]

the reason you can see further up than across is that when your looking across you're seeing the converging of 3d perspective (which has a limit) and through the haze of the atmosphere
- while the sky is just 2 d and and the atmosphere is completely different
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Aug 3 2019 01:35pm
Quote (hunter_1 @ Aug 3 2019 03:19pm)
Airplanes have blinking lights on the bottom
These do not


like a said, post a video

I got one a video of a satellite, dont cry

https://youtu.be/mAfdkWy0QtE
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Aug 3 2019 01:39pm
Quote (card_sultan @ Aug 3 2019 09:31pm)
you cant credibly prove theedge of space or that the Ocean has a bottom or the steak i ate last night came from a Cow, so as usually - your point is moot[but that won't stop a troll like yourself will it]


Here's the difference. I made no claims about the edge of space and was honest that I didn't know for sure

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the reason you can see further up than across is that when your looking across you're seeing the converging of 3d perspective (which has a limit) and through the haze of the atmosphere
- while the sky is just 2 d and and the atmosphere is completely different


I'm talking about the size of the stars
At the Ice wall or Antarctica the stars should be closer since the dome is closer



Yet they do not appear larger at Antarctica

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Aug 3 2019 01:46pm
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Here's the difference. I made no claims about the edge of space and was honest that I didn't know for sure



I'm talking about the size of the stars
At the Ice wall or Antarctica the stars are closer since the dome is closer

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCvyP_dVoAIAm9p.jpg

Yet they do not appear larger at Antarctica


I see the issues so

A. How far the ice goes is anyone's guess
B. The Shape of the dome is not known - the picture is just an illustration yo get a general idea of the concept - not something to take your ruler out and do calculations
C. It is my contention the stars are not on the dome - but instead are the result of solar frequencies with create an effect called Sonoluminese which we can recreate here on earth
https://youtu.be/O9B3vzsZsr4
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Aug 3 2019 01:53pm
Quote (card_sultan @ Aug 3 2019 09:46pm)
I see the issues so

A. How far the ice goes is anyone's guess
B. The Shape of the dome is not known - the picture is just an illustration yo get a general idea of the concept - not something to take your ruler out and do calculations
C. It is my contention the stars are not on the dome - but instead are the result of solar frequencies with create an effect called Sonoluminese which we can recreate here on earth
https://youtu.be/O9B3vzsZsr4


Fair enough.
But then we have another unanswered/unexplained phenomenon on the FE model

As far as point C is concerned no credible documentation about this exists

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Fair enough.
But then we have another unanswered/unexplained phenomenon on the FE model

As far as point C is concerned no credible documentation about this exists


UNLESS THE DOCUMENTS TUCKEd AWAY IN one them mountain banks yo , I seen a UFO not with smoke coming out of it, just appeared close to me and my brother while we were about to toke some bud. It was grey and white, it didn't fly away, just hovered close by and then it like point straight up and vanished, faster than I could pull out my cellular. Not flew away but poofed like camouflaged. I didn't even take my gravity bong rip yet. This was like 9 years ago, on my mothers balcony, This was only phenomenon as this class I ever witness. It must have been someone from another time or really advanced people/aliens. THESE ARE SECRETS THEY KEEP FROM US!
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Aug 3 2019 02:06pm
Quote (impdemon @ Aug 3 2019 10:02pm)
UNLESS THE DOCUMENTS TUCKEd AWAY IN one them mountain banks yo , I seen a UFO not with smoke coming out of it, just appeared close to me and my brother while we were about to toke some bud. It was grey and white, it didn't fly away, just hovered close by and then it like point straight up and vanished, faster than I could pull out my cellular. Not flew away but poofed like camouflaged. I didn't even take my gravity bong rip yet. This was like 9 years ago, on my mothers balcony, This was only phenomenon as this class I ever witness. It must have been someone from another time or really advanced people/aliens. THESE ARE SECRETS THEY KEEP FROM US!


The truth is out there :ph34r:
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