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Jul 30 2019 01:27am
Quote (SDGoD @ Jul 30 2019 09:27am)
I'm interested in flat-earthers actually bringing science in this debate and attempting to prove their claims with something else than logic,
but in my opinion first saying something will prove a flat earth and then denying the importance of said test after it fails feels a bit biased experimenting.


Literally this thread in a nutshell.

btw Globe was "discovered" well before lobbying and internationalization.

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Jul 30 2019 02:14am
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May I ask @ChivasRegal about your opinion on the recent Netflix document, 'Behind the Curve'?
I assume you watched it?

What did you think about the experiments made with Ring laser telescope which was supposed to prove flat earth once & for all by proving the earth was stationary? But just ended up proving the 15-degree rotation regardless of precautions they took.
And Campanella's experiment at the very end of the document? The one with lights that were supposed to prove flatness.

I mean, first, they said it will prove the lack of rotation and flatness, but then after the tests made by flat-earthers failed, they suddenly didn't prove anything anymore?
I kinda missed the explanations of why the tests suddenly lose relatedness upon failing.

I'm interested in flat-earthers actually bringing science in this debate and attempting to prove their claims with something else than logic,
but in my opinion first saying something will prove a flat earth and then denying the importance of said test after it fails feels a bit biased experimenting.


I never watched it sorry. I did my own flat earth research and I came to learn there are controlled opposition and dis-information agents (probably some in that mockumentary) regarding this subject. They almost succeeded in convincing me to stop looking into the FE.
Having discernment is vital.

I did see a short clip on YT from the mockumentary showing something about torches through holes and a brief drawing was shown that seemed to be mocking the globe earth audience and (them) not even realize it.
If you can, go back and watch it and look how the drawing illustrates that a human can hold his hands up 24 feet high (or some crazy height) on an imaginary globe earth. I'm pretty sure most people missed the intentional incorrect math used.
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Jul 30 2019 02:23am
Quote (ChivasRegal @ Jul 30 2019 11:14am)
I never watched it sorry. I did my own flat earth research and I came to learn there are controlled opposition and dis-information agents (probably some in that mockumentary) regarding this subject. They almost succeeded in convincing me to stop looking into the FE.
Having discernment is vital.

I did see a short clip on YT from the mockumentary showing something about torches through holes and a brief drawing was shown that seemed to be mocking the globe earth audience and (them) not even realize it.
If you can, go back and watch it and look how the drawing illustrates that a human can hold his hands up 24 feet high (or some crazy height) on an imaginary globe earth. I'm pretty sure most people missed the intentional incorrect math used.


Aight, np. Need to find someone else to explain it.

Stupid of me to assume one would watch everything related to FE at this point.
It's become quite a popular phenomenon ^^
"Flat Earth" (in quotation marks) has almost 10 million results now just from Google.
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Jul 30 2019 06:24am
Quote (SDGoD @ Jul 30 2019 03:27am)
May I ask @ChivasRegal about your opinion on the recent Netflix document, 'Behind the Curve'?
I assume you watched it?

What did you think about the experiments made with Ring laser telescope which was supposed to prove flat earth once & for all by proving the earth was stationary? But just ended up proving the 15-degree rotation regardless of precautions they took.
And Campanella's experiment at the very end of the document? The one with lights that were supposed to prove flatness.

I mean, first, they said it will prove the lack of rotation and flatness, but then after the tests made by flat-earthers failed, they suddenly didn't prove anything anymore?
I kinda missed the explanations of why the tests suddenly lose relatedness upon failing.

I'm interested in flat-earthers actually bringing science in this debate and attempting to prove their claims with something else than logic,
but in my opinion first saying something will prove a flat earth and then denying the importance of said test after it fails feels a bit biased experimenting.



All the flat earthers foamed at the mouth after this documentary, immediately labeling it a mockumentary and branding all the people as shills and paid opposition. It’s quite funny because we all predicted this would happen and the flat earthers played into it perfectly. It was one of their biggest foot in mouth moments to date.

They went and wasted their money on a ring laser gyro only to have their fantasy destroyed and then after the flashlight experiment they had to assume damage control pretty fast.

Bob super noodle doodle Nodel lost all credibility, Nathan Thomson looked like a clown bouncing balls on a hammer and the rest all went into hiding pretty much after. They lost tons of followers including Patricia Steere who was a female influence in their community.



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Jul 30 2019 06:26am
Quote (SDGoD @ Jul 30 2019 05:23am)
Aight, np. Need to find someone else to explain it.

Stupid of me to assume one would watch everything related to FE at this point.
It's become quite a popular phenomenon ^^
"Flat Earth" (in quotation marks) has almost 10 million results now just from Google.



And hello Kitty and Bigfoot are still more popular than FE on google trends. FE has been on a steady decline as of recent.
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Jul 30 2019 06:35am
Quote (Blorgg @ Jul 30 2019 03:24pm)
All the flat earthers foamed at the mouth after this documentary, immediately labeling it a mockumentary and branding all the people as shills and paid opposition. It’s quite funny because we all predicted this would happen and the flat earthers played into it perfectly. It was one of their biggest foot in mouth moments to date.

They went and wasted their money on a ring laser gyro only to have their fantasy destroyed and then after the flashlight experiment they had to assume damage control pretty fast.

Bob super noodle doodle Nodel lost all credibility, Nathan Thomson looked like a clown bouncing balls on a hammer and the rest all went into hiding pretty much after. They lost tons of followers including Patricia Steere who was a female influence in their community.


Haha yeah.
Heard this side, but wanted to hear someone's response to it who is in the other side of the argument :p

Some interesting info nevertheless, thanks for sharing! Didn't hear all of that & was wondering what happened to them.
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Jul 30 2019 07:21am
Quote (SDGoD @ Jul 30 2019 09:35am)
Haha yeah.
Heard this side, but wanted to hear someone's response to it who is in the other side of the argument :p

Some interesting info nevertheless, thanks for sharing! Didn't hear all of that & was wondering what happened to them.



If u want to know real flat earth answers, then u need to play the part and join one of their echo chambers. U can’t get answers from them if they start suspecting that ur not on their side, it’s part of their narcissistic belief system.

So pretend to be a flat earther and ask simple questions, u will quickly see the inconsistent answers and after a couple dozen/hundred responses, u will still be left with questions and no answers.

Anyone with half a clue that starts doing research on flat earth, quickly sees it for wat it really is.
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Jul 30 2019 11:33am
Quote (Blorgg @ Jul 30 2019 09:21am)
If u want to know real flat earth answers, then u need to play the part and join one of their echo chambers. U can’t get answers from them if they start suspecting that ur not on their side, it’s part of their narcissistic belief system.

So pretend to be a flat earther and ask simple questions, u will quickly see the inconsistent answers and after a couple dozen/hundred responses, u will still be left with questions and no answers.

Anyone with half a clue that starts doing research on flat earth, quickly sees it for wat it really is.


If people have slightly different words, it's not an echo chamber, globe chats are because they all parrot the same dumpster fire points, like you just did. Anyone with any critical thought, can see earth is not a globe.

Watch how this Heliocultist dodges these very basic questions:

If Space is expanding, what's after the edge and why does the distance to the sun not expand?

How does matter determine if it going to use gravity or buoyancy, please describe the choices it needs to make and explain the mechanism for gravity?

Is the earth and its atmosphere one or two reference frames?

Please cite an experiment that shows a volume of pressurized gas maintaining its shape inside a vacuum without a barrier between the two?

Please show things flying and combustion occurring in a vacuum?

INB4 dodge, insults and more rage.
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Jul 30 2019 11:36am
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Jul 30 2019 12:09pm
Quote (SDGoD @ Jul 30 2019 04:23am)
Aight, np. Need to find someone else to explain it.

Stupid of me to assume one would watch everything related to FE at this point.
It's become quite a popular phenomenon ^^
"Flat Earth" (in quotation marks) has almost 10 million results now just from Google.


Ring lasers are from the Sagnac effect that proved the earth does not rotate, the thing to remember is that if they dont move - they don't register anything, cause earth doesnt move. When it moves you know it, they're called earthquakes.

The other test they showed in that joke film was the hole test where they just edited out all the footage that showed the test was inconclusive, even the globars at that experiment agreed. The next day, in the light they realized the obstruction was cause by bushes.

There are a ton of good films in FE, thats one is made by biased Helio Cultists. It's like watching a film about how cigarettes are good for you from Cigarette manufacturers.

This is one of the ways the media fights the truth, is by pushing and promoting stupidity, also consider blacklisting, covert field agents(plants), gang stalking (where they hire ex criminals to troll people), banning videos, speech and people that expose too much truth, and changing search algorithms to hide topics. If the Earth was really a globe - they wouldn't need to do this, they could just use science - but they dont have any science and they don't want you to realize that.
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