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Jul 21 2019 10:31am
Quote (remco6 @ Jul 21 2019 12:24pm)
Oxygen always requires a fuel to combust.
The only element in air that can be separated that is useful to combustion is Oxygen.


So your saying Oxten is a accelerant fuel to fire.....

your plea to a rhetorical man made word that defines your "usual" thinking is duly noted.

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Jul 21 2019 10:38am
Good stuff keep it up
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fuel[ fyoo-uhl ]SHOW IPA
SYNONYMS|EXAMPLES|WORD ORIGIN
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noun
1. combustible matter used to maintain fire, as coal, wood, oil, or gas, in order to create heat or power.
2. something that gives nourishment; food.
3. an energy source for engines, power plants, or reactors:
4. something that sustains or encourages; stimulant:
Our discussion provided him with "fuel" for debate.

Fuel can be combustible matter or it can be something that encourages something

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Jul 21 2019 10:49am
Quote (card_sultan @ Jul 21 2019 10:31am)
So your saying Oxten is a accelerant fuel to fire.....

your plea to a rhetorical man made word that defines your "usual" thinking is duly noted.



Reality based world is what you meant.
Yes oxygen acts as an accelerant if an excess of fuel exists.
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Jul 21 2019 10:56am
Quote (remco6 @ Jul 21 2019 12:49pm)
Reality based world is what you meant.
Yes oxygen acts as an accelerant if an excess of fuel exists.


Fuel - 4. something that sustains or encourages; stimulant:

So, i can say:

Hugs are a fuel to fight depression

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Hugs are not combustible, {insert insult to fuel other trolls}
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Jul 21 2019 10:56am
Quote (card_sultan @ Jul 21 2019 10:40am)
Sorry i'm not a JPL Jet Engine Designer, nor do i have a billion dollars and 30 years to test everything just to prove things to you. Whether Oxygen can can burn - (you insist that is what i'm talking about when I'm not because it's an irrelevant issue), I did present evidence air can be used "like" a fuel source - in that it can explode, air can be separated and compressed leaving elements that are combustible or the oxygen can be used in a magnetic levitation kinda way. Thats three very plausible examples that are much more reasonable than Jumbo Jets carrying around 30 tanks fill of Jet Fuel sloshing around for these long distance flights. Do you know how much that fuel would weigh? We simply can't make airplane fuel tanks bigger, Thats why the Spruce Goose built in the 30s couldn't get higher than 100 feet off the ground, it was too heavy, so despite your ""usual" wicca-pedi knowledge, science has known about this issue for 90 years, and thats how far you are in dragging behind.



awww so cute child, now feel free to grab a sucker, I keep them in a jar in the corner of my Jet hanger.


Now you're lying to me @bold. For oxygen itself to be explosive, it must be combustible. Oxygen helps other things explode. That's why it's considered highly reactive.

Atmospheric composition is Nitrogen, oxygen, argon, and trace elements. The first three are 99.96% of the atmosphere, and none are combustible. So no, you can't just "compress air leaving elements that are combustible."

Magnetic levitation by oxygen? Wut?

I'm sorry, what exactly is "more plausible than jumbo jets using fuel?"

To answer your question about "do we know how much fuel weighs," yes, we do. You can Google pretty much any commercial aircraft and find out how heavy it is empty and how heavy its MTOW (maximum takeoff weight) is.

The Spruce Goose's operational ceiling was never determined because it never underwent further pre-production testing. It lifted off once, to prove to Congress that it could fly and thus that Howard Hughes hadn't wasted the public's money developing it.

Is there anything else you'd like to be shown how you're wrong, today?
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Jul 21 2019 11:11am
Quote (remco6 @ Jul 21 2019 12:49pm)
Reality based world is what you meant.
Yes oxygen acts as an accelerant if an excess of fuel exists.


also - not only does oxygen acts as a stimulant to fire, it is required to even have fire.

So while rhetorically it is described as an accelerant - it is also a requirement to order to sustain burning
so in that regard, it is technically indistinguishable as a fuel source at a microscopic level
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Jul 21 2019 11:27am
Quote (card_sultan @ Jul 21 2019 12:11pm)
also - not only does oxygen acts as a stimulant to fire, it is required to even have fire.

So while rhetorically it is described as an accelerant - it is also a requirement to order to sustain burning
so in that regard, it is technically indistinguishable as a fuel source at a microscopic level


Are you just figuring this out? Like, several pages after we told you?

Patently false, and that's what we've been trying to say.
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Jul 21 2019 11:31am
Quote (Santara @ Jul 21 2019 12:56pm)
Now you're lying to me @bold. For oxygen itself to be explosive, it must be combustible. Oxygen helps other things explode. That's why it's considered highly reactive.

Atmospheric composition is Nitrogen, oxygen, argon, and trace elements. The first three are 99.96% of the atmosphere, and none are combustible. So no, you can't just "compress air leaving elements that are combustible."

Magnetic levitation by oxygen? Wut?

I'm sorry, what exactly is "more plausible than jumbo jets using fuel?"

To answer your question about "do we know how much fuel weighs," yes, we do. You can Google pretty much any commercial aircraft and find out how heavy it is empty and how heavy its MTOW (maximum takeoff weight) is.

The Spruce Goose's operational ceiling was never determined because it never underwent further pre-production testing. It lifted off once, to prove to Congress that it could fly and thus that Howard Hughes hadn't wasted the public's money developing it.

Is there anything else you'd like to be shown how you're wrong, today?


-Sorry - safety manuals list it as explosive - whether or not it combusts is irrelevant and not understand the definition of what a fuel is.
-Sorry but you forget to mention Ozone at higher levels in the air and the presence of water can be as much as 3%
-I gave links to sources that show how Ozone can support weight when levitated between magnetic sources and showed a photo that shows a magnetic field is created in Airplanes, try to keep up.
-Jumbo jets using 30 tanker trucks full of liquid fuel is highly improbable - it exceeds optimal weight to power ratios. Something else is going on.
-The Spruce Goose operational ceiling was never determined because it was too heavy because it exceeded an optimal power to weight ratio and was not fully understood, this was the dawn of powered flight, not with the help of the technological knowledge we employ today.
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Jul 21 2019 11:40am
Quote (Santara @ Jul 21 2019 01:27pm)
Are you just figuring this out? Like, several pages after we told you?

Patently false, and that's what we've been trying to say.


no - jsp trolls like yourself are saying its not a fuel source - im saying that technically it is a fuel source

not to mention that Technology can make any particle, a potential fuel source.

Maybe you would understand it more if i just used the word "magic" and "a wizard did it" - just like the magic force that holds you to the ground

"Airplane Pilots" [i mean wizards]
are using magic fairy dust, prove me wrong!
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