Quote (card_sultan @ Jul 15 2019 05:15pm)

me - what you see is what it is
you -what you see is wrong cause the state told me what to think

cool story!

Quote (card_sultan @ Jul 16 2019 01:07am)

Im not quite sure what your getting at, in the Flat Earth model - only the earth is stationary - the sky revolves around us.
So the difference in the Lunar path is that in the Helio model - it orbits the earth roughly once a month.
In the Flat Earth model, it orbits once a day.

So to see which one is correct go out and photograph the moon. Every night at the exact same second snap a picture.
Create a montage of your work. See if the path creates a semi analemma - that's the double snake helix or the symbol for infinity.

Quote (card_sultan @ Jul 15 2019 04:26pm)

https://i.imgur.com/0URBRqq.jpg

your appeal to NASA rhetoric to prove your claims are just cherry picking to confirm your bias,
when ive clearly shown you they refer to the earth as Stationary and Flat in the own technical manuals.
stay blind.

Quote (Melatonina @ Jul 15 2019 07:20pm)

That thing you call double snake is because earth is rotating with an angle of 23 degrees. Though, the moon rotates on a horizontal plan around earth.
just modelize thoses both spheres in 3D and surprise, you have that infinity symbol!

If that angle was zero, you would see a line of moons, incredible isnt it ?

Quote (Santara @ Jul 15 2019 07:28pm)

Where's the intake manifold on the space shuttle engines? Jet engines use atmospheric oxygen. Sorry, there aren't any intake manifolds on the space shuttle, because it carries its own LOX. They are rocket engines fueled by the main tank (seen in orange). That was easily one of your worst pictures, and you should feel dumb for posting it. This has the makings of another slinky topic...

Quote (remco6 @ Jul 15 2019 07:20pm)

That only works if your intelligent enough to interpret what you see, which your not. Otherwise you wouldn’t have to do mental gymnastics to explain simple things like the sun setting.

Quote (card_sultan @ Jul 15 2019 06:11pm)

thinks the sun goes over the top edge of a ball, has never seen the ball for himself

why can no one find or measure this supposed curve?

https://youtu.be/yiV4LiFHBh8

Quote (card_sultan @ Jul 16 2019 01:31am)

so the earth wobbles every day now? um ok....

j/k - the supposed axial tilt does not daily change along solar orbital path in your model - so i gave no idea where your coming from.

I believe they say there some kind of wobble - but you need to be around for 24,000 years to notice it.

nice appeal to imposible time scales.

Quote (card_sultan @ Jul 15 2019 06:39pm)

picture was from a NASA video, dont blame me for crappy video in the 80s. Normal jet engines use O², why couldnt this be stored in a tank, especially if it was in a frozen form. What was that center tank filled with - frozen O² - strange right.

cue twilight zone music....

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Q: What’s the difference between a jet engine and a rocket engine?

A: Jet engines and rockets work on the same principle. They produce thrust through an internal pressure difference and, as explained by Newton’s Third Law of Motion, eject exhaust gases in an equal and opposite direction. The main difference between them is that jets get the oxygen to burn fuel from the air and rockets carry their own oxygen, which allows them to operate in space. This also leads to a second major difference. Jet engines have two openings (an intake and an exhaust nozzle). Rocket engines only have one opening (an exhaust nozzle).