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Jul 14 2019 10:19am
Quote (kai_jph @ Jul 14 2019 11:14am)
Agree

If you take antarctica for example. Lets say it is the Ice Wall and there are people stationed there to control your movement

The question is then what countries or governments are they from and what logistics are involved

Like you said tens of millions of people on the conspiracy and billions of $ in equipment just to hide the truth of the shape of the earth


Literally have to hide trillions in infrastructure just to keep antartica secure, and maintain it
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Jul 14 2019 11:42am
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jul 14 2019 10:19am)
Ultimately for the earth to be flat there would need to be literally tens of millions of people in on the conspiracy. That's the part that makes it so insane compared to other conspiracy theories.


are you claiming Santa is a conspiracy too, 100s of millions of parents would have to be in on it.....oh wait they are!!!
This number if people are not in on it, people are compartmentalized in their thinking, they're trained not to ask questions.
And if they do - they are fired and blacklisted and if that happens say goodbye to your family. You won't find the truth from a man whose salary depends on helping the Lie.


Quote (Santara @ Jul 14 2019 10:39am)
Appeal to conspiracy/10

NASA has launched hundreds of missions into space, all based on understanding gravity and the shape of the planet. Whether it's photos or the innumerable scientific discoveries gleaned from those missions, I get to use them all. Hubble space telescope. ISS. Space shuttles. Gemini missions. Apollo program. All of it.


Victim of the State/10 Conspiring happens all the time, your parents conspired to give birth to you, you are a walking conspiracy.
A more appropriate word is called "Cooperation" - people cooperate all the time, shocking right? You've fallen victim to a definition made popular by the CIA to discourage rational free thinking. Again your confusing understanding with believing, I understand Santa completely, should we launch rockets to the north pole to send him out wish list? I dont believe thats a good idea, see how that works? Your photos are fake, Hubble is just Sophia on a plane, ISS is just a projection, rockets dont go to space, the shuttle is just a jet airplane.

Quote (kai_jph @ Jul 14 2019 12:14pm)
Agree, If you take antarctica for example. Lets say it is the Ice Wall and there are people stationed there to control your movement
The question is then what countries or governments are they from and what logistics are involved. Like you said tens of millions of people on the conspiracy and billions of $ in equipment just to hide the truth of the shape of the earth


Nice conspiracy mind fail. No one is in Antarctica guarding it, its the largest most hospitable place on earth bounded with a 200 foot wall of ice, no roads and littered with 14,000 foot mountains. There's only three ways to get to it, all controlled by the same country, you not allowed to bring fuel below 60 degrees south, if you want to get a permit to go anywhere off where they want you to go - expect a wall of red rape and endless regulations.

Quote (Thor123422 @ Jul 14 2019 12:19pm)
Literally have to hide trillions in infrastructure just to keep antartica secure, and maintain it


there are trillions of dollars the DOD cant account for, but this has nothing to do with maintaining restrictions to Antarctica
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Jul 14 2019 12:04pm
Quote (card_sultan @ Jul 14 2019 07:42pm)
Nice conspiracy mind fail. No one is in Antarctica guarding it, its the largest most hospitable place on earth bounded with a 200 foot wall of ice, no roads and littered with 14,000 foot mountains. There's only three ways to get to it, all controlled by the same country, you not allowed to bring fuel below 60 degrees south, if you want to get a permit to go anywhere off where they want you to go - expect a wall of red rape and endless regulations.


Chivas mentioned this and you mentioned visits are controlled

But now if now if no one is guarding antarctica who enforces this wall of red tape and regulations to stop you finding the truth

We discussed the Antarctic treaty you quoting from in quite a lot of detail earlier.
Will get the link

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Jul 14 2019 12:23pm
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Chivas mentioned this and you mentioned visits are controlled

But now if now if no one is guarding antarctica who enforces this wall of red tape and regulations to stop you finding the truth


Let's say you don't go through all the red tape, so imagine you get a 500 ft boat, 1000s of gallons of gas, 1000s of lbs of equipment,
a 100 volunteers who are willing to risk their life to make a 6000 mile journey in -50 to -100 temps - there and back. If you manage not to kill everyone,

who are you going yo tell? There's only 5 corporations that own all the news/radio/tv. INB4 fail.
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Jul 14 2019 12:30pm
Quote (ChivasRegal @ Jul 14 2019 05:43am)
it was sarcasm...

this may be more helpful:

https://i.servimg.com/u/f21/19/86/59/35/20180210.jpg


exactly, the free army of trollflake reasoning and Agent Smith wannabes

are proof the fluoride is working as intended.
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Jul 14 2019 12:32pm
Quote (kai_jph @ Jul 14 2019 02:04pm)
Chivas mentioned this and you mentioned visits are controlled

But now if now if no one is guarding antarctica who enforces this wall of red tape and regulations to stop you finding the truth

We discussed the Antarctic treaty you quoting from in quite a lot of detail earlier.
Will get the link


https://www.answers.com/Q/Who_enforces_the_terms_of_the_Antarctic_treaty
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Jul 14 2019 12:39pm
Quote (card_sultan @ Jul 14 2019 08:23pm)
Let's say you don't go through all the red tape, so imagine you get a 500 ft boat, 1000s of gallons of gas, 1000s of lbs of equipment,
a 100 volunteers who are willing to risk their life to make a 6000 mile journey in -50 to -100 temps - there and back. If you manage not to kill everyone,

who are you going yo tell? There's only 5 corporations that own all the news/radio/tv. INB4 fail.


As I said chivas mentioned this. If you disagree , no sweat.
Just discussing potential logistics

People are a curious bunch and go to any length possible to find the truth.

Thats why I said film and take photos . Include your friends or companions in there.

Since you keep using YT post footage there and other video sites. Send it to all the FE'ers you know around the earth and show it at the FE conventions...etc

Show to the science comunities, universities...etc

Worldwide their are way more than 5 corporations

Yes maybe there will be agencies or whatever trying to take/shut it down... etc
But then you will know for sure you were right
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Jul 14 2019 12:44pm
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From the link

What did the Antarctic treaty of 1959 ban?
The Antarctic Treaty bans all human activity south of 60 degrees South Latitude with the exception of the pursuit of science.
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Jul 14 2019 01:18pm
Quote (kai_jph @ Jul 14 2019 02:39pm)
As I said chivas mentioned this. If you disagree , no sweat.
Just discussing potential logistics

People are a curious bunch and go to any length possible to find the truth.

Thats why I said film and take photos . Include your friends or companions in there.

Since you keep using YT post footage there and other video sites. Send it to all the FE'ers you know around the earth and show it at the FE conventions...etc

Show to the science comunities, universities...etc

Worldwide their are way more than 5 corporations

Yes maybe there will be agencies or whatever trying to take/shut it down... etc
But then you will know for sure you were right


https://www.morriscreative.com/6-corporations-control-90-of-the-media-in-america/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/katevinton/2016/06/01/these-15-billionaires-own-americas-news-media-companies/#3c87e13660ad

Science communities - what is that?

University - like they ever do anything the State doesn't want them too?

Quote (kai_jph @ Jul 14 2019 02:44pm)
From the link

What did the Antarctic treaty of 1959 ban?
The Antarctic Treaty bans all human activity south of 60 degrees South Latitude with the exception of the pursuit of science.


cool, so if you intend to go exploring in Antarctica - they can lock you up for conspiring against the Government - nice fail.
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Jul 14 2019 01:48pm
Quote (card_sultan @ Jul 14 2019 09:18pm)


Maybe I worded it wrong. Basically any place science is debated and discussed
Where there's a will there's a way to get the word out when you get this proof


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cool, so if you intend to go exploring in Antarctica - they can lock you up for conspiring against the Government - nice fail.


Which government? You saying every single one im world is in on this?
No proof of that other than your word.
But lets say it is.

Quote (card_sultan @ May 3 2018 09:22am)
As to whether im a truth warrior - i'd rather be a truth Martyr than a lying puppet.


You did say you were willing to be a martyr for your belief. Was this on the forums only ?

Here's the thing .
You and chivas post YT vids a lot. Now if you believe them to be true that means the posters are all in deap trouble

This post was edited by kai_jph on Jul 14 2019 01:48pm
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