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Jan 19 2017 03:42pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Jan 19 2017 11:36am)
so the video debunked in the video i posted claiming "diverging sight lines" as "his theory" to answer a problem with his "theory". cool.

so why doesn't the sun shrink as it approaches the horizon on a clear day to explain it "disappearing due to perspective" rather than earth rotation? is it perhaps, gasp, that it doesn't, observable by all humans on the earth putting a huge gaping hole in your theory? that would be terrible for you.

i have to laugh at the coffee barista telling me, a mechanical draftsmen who literally works with gemoetry and perspective as a career that i'm the ignorant one.

just explain, why doesn't the sun shrink if its perspective. you can't because you don't get it. you'll just come back with "z axis" "length width height". it's laughable.


So i posted a 20 minute video , and 5 minutes later you already debunked it - how intellectually dishonest you are, nothing you say makes any sense.

The sun getting smaller as it approaches the horizon is ridiculous if the sun is 93 million miles away, you have the understanding of a brick.

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Jan 19 2017 04:20pm
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your idea is flawed, because in order to see the horizon you need to look at 90 degrees - in your 2 d idea of perspective - the horizon is higher than you and your only looking at a less than right angle to the ground, its entirely silly once it becomes clear to you, you just refuse to acknowledge you were fooled.


No its not higher. I never said that.

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So i posted a 20 minute video , and 5 minutes later you already debunked it - how intellectually dishonest you are, nothing you say makes any sense.

The sun getting smaller as it approaches the horizon is ridiculous if the sun is 93 million miles away, you have the understanding of a brick.


So it disappears but doesn't get smaller. How? Train tracks shrink but the sun doesn't it just disappears

Again. On a clear day the sun doesn't get smaller

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Jan 19 2017 04:35pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Jan 19 2017 12:20pm)
No its not higher. I never said that.



So it disappears but doesn't get smaller. How? Train tracks shrink but the sun doesn't it just disappears

Again. On a clear day the sun doesn't get smaller


You never said higher, but this is what you believe subconsciously in order to think the horizon is the due to the curve of the earth.

You need to consciously understand how ridiculous this is, so if you dont think it'd higher - you thinks its lower than you and past the horizon it is just lower.

Is that why you think the 2d math to prove your 3d misunderstanding of actual perspective accurately explain how to see the horizon - that you need to look down at what is less than a 90° angle

and in this example they draw a 45° angle in order to view the curve of the Earth??



See the point you r looking at in the drawing, dont you have Peripheral vision - you dont just see a point - imagine that "r" line is the actual curve of the earth , how everything beyond it would be hidden beyond and that the horizon would be curved.

This is how your eye works according to perspective, not with your mind of people telling you what you see.




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Your stick model is drawn incorrectly to represent a sphere. Maybe I can draw you a correct one tomorrow in cad. Might even have time to convert to solid edge for a 3d model.

Again. On a round earth, even a hypothetical one, the horizon would be flat. Again basic geometry

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Jan 19 2017 04:53pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Jan 19 2017 12:48pm)
Your stick model is drawn incorrectly to represent a sphere. Maybe I can draw you a correct one tomorrow in cad. Might even have time to convert to solid edge for a 3d model.


Its not my drawing, i would not try to explain perspective with stick men and a 2 d perspective, Heliotards would and this screenshot is from a video that tries to explain how the horizon is actually the curve of the Earth and proves their mind is stuck in flatland.

I already know what your thinking , that the horizon is that picture of a point X 360, but of course you dont simply see a point in 2 d space and then need to turn your head to see another point, you have Peripheral vision which allows you to see about 160°+ of perspective.

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Jan 19 2017 05:12pm
The flat earth means that the earth is flat as opposed to being round
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Jan 19 2017 06:15pm
Quote (card_sultan @ Jan 19 2017 12:25pm)
This proves how retarded you are. When I look at the horizon - it is always at 90° - in both your examples you're looking up but coming up with less than 90° view. This is why you cant show a 3d perspective of the z axis with just a 2 d side view and an incorrect basic understanding of only the height and width or x and y axis. For sure your brain lives in Flatland.
Hmm, yeah - if I ever want to scrape the bottom of the barrel for some retarded logic, Ill be sure to ask you.


Oh look, instead of answering the two simple questions I asked you just threw out some random words like "perspective" and "z-axis".
In my picture, do both stick men have the same viewing angle? Very simple question, just look at the picture and tell me if the angles look the same to you.
If the angles don't look the same, what do you think happens to the angle as the person gets smaller and smaller? Should be easy to answer, since there's a picture of a bigger person and a smaller person.

Very easy, simple questions that a 10 year old would have no problem answering.



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Oh look, instead of answering the two simple questions I asked you just threw out some random words like "perspective" and "z-axis".
In my picture, do both stick men have the same viewing angle? Very simple question, just look at the picture and tell me if the angles look the same to you.
If the angles don't look the same, what do you think happens to the angle as the person gets smaller and smaller? Should be easy to answer, since there's a picture of a bigger person and a smaller person.

Very easy, simple questions that a 10 year old would have no problem answering.

http://i63.tinypic.com/2j1wyfk.jpg


This is almost what I was going to draw
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Jan 19 2017 07:40pm
So earth not real?
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Jan 19 2017 08:54pm
card is walking you through it (perspective) step by step, plain and simple, and you still can't get it........either you are ignorant beyond comprehension, or you truly are trolling and are just winding card up.

which one is it please?
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