He is not a coward or a pussy. He is a shit troll that you keep feeding. Please stop being more ignorant than he pretends to be.

oh is it that time of week again where someone claims card is a troll, a troll who spends hours a day researching flat earth on the internet so that he can argue with people for years with zero gain to himself?

i've always allowed for the possibility and yet i can never really be convinced. if he's trolling his entire persona for over a decade has been a troll. he's bitten on every conspiracy ever, from the moon landing to 911. and let's not pretend that his version of the flat earth theory is anything but an extension of moon landing doubts mixed with some illuminati bullshit.



This post was edited by thesnipa on Jan 19 2017 02:19pm

I've already debunked that video, not spending hours again to point out every detail again of that video just because you cant keep look it up and wont believe anything i say anyway.
but basically this is for retarded people that think the horizon is the curve of the earth, that you look up at less than a 90° angle to see it and that the buildings are on the other side.
The entire first minute of that video is insulting and a troll to sway you into his retarded thinking by playing on your prejudices.

“You can sway a thousand men by appealing to their prejudices quicker than you can convince one man by logic.”


― Robert A. Heinlein

The horizon rises to your eye because the Earth is flat and we are viewing a 3rd dimension of depth aka the z axis, you're not seeing the curve of the Ball you desperately want to believe we live on.



This post was edited by card_sultan on Jan 19 2017 02:32pm

I'm going to make a video of how the earth is actually a fucking triangle, spew a bunch of bullshit, and make profit off of fools like you.

no matter how high you rise off of a sphere to a reasonable distance due to perspective it looks flat. you can't argue that. you can try by using buzz words like "z axis" but you're not arguing anything.

the same is true on a flat earth model. the differences is on a round earth model the sun doesn't change sizes and boats disappear beyond the horizon on a clear calm day. which happen in real life, and require more buzzwords like "blocking" and "clouding" to "explain" on the flat earth model.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Jan 19 2017 02:40pm

Yes i can argue with that - according to your 2d Helio idea of perspective you are seeing the highest point on the curve of the earth, the sides of that perspective would not raise to your eye level if you were seeing the curve of the earth because there would be no earth to be visible and the horizon would be curved.

Get any actual globe (or any large ball) and a ruler and mark the point that you think is parallel to your view, then shift that ruler and look at the width so that your actually seeing the 3d perspective - does it look flat - do the sides rise up to your eyesight. Of course not, this is just classic failed Renaissance helio logic to fool you.

This post was edited by card_sultan on Jan 19 2017 03:15pm

just utter world salad.

if you are on a sphere, you are the highest point. no part of a sphere perimeter is any farther from the center than any other. as you sit on that sphere, on ANY point of that sphere, the rest of the sphere appears flat to you as you gaze around. this isn't something you cant buzzword your way out of. even if the earth is flat this is still true, its not proof of a round earth its geometry. you continuing to use "the horizon is always flat" as "proof" shows you don't understand this. i get it, geometry is hard.

as soon as you start acknowledging some truths you'll be better off, i mean you'll realize you were wrong but be better off.

again, geometrically through perspective, on a hypothetical sphere the horizon looks flat as you turn 360 degrees. this isn't proof for or against a flat or round earth, this is a fact. your insistence on using it as counter proof just shows how little you get about geometry.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Jan 19 2017 03:23pm

You cant understand true perspective on a 2d model because true perspective is 3 dimensions - length, height and depth.

this guy understand how perspective actually works

so the video debunked in the video i posted claiming "diverging sight lines" as "his theory" to answer a problem with his "theory". cool.

so why doesn't the sun shrink as it approaches the horizon on a clear day to explain it "disappearing due to perspective" rather than earth rotation? is it perhaps, gasp, that it doesn't, observable by all humans on the earth putting a huge gaping hole in your theory? that would be terrible for you.

i have to laugh at the coffee barista telling me, a mechanical draftsmen who literally works with gemoetry and perspective as a career that i'm the ignorant one.

just explain, why doesn't the sun shrink if its perspective. you can't because you don't get it. you'll just come back with "z axis" "length width height". it's laughable.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Jan 19 2017 03:36pm

your idea is flawed, because in order to see the horizon you need to look at 90 degrees - in your 2 d idea of perspective - the horizon is higher than you and your only looking at a less than right angle to the ground, its entirely silly once it becomes clear to you, you just refuse to acknowledge you were fooled.