Quote (trader @ Jun 19 2019 11:41am)

so the sun is fake and gay?

Quote (ValidationSenpai @ Jun 19 2019 10:25am)

So a few mornings ago I was in this beautiful province in the oldest north American town the landing point of the would-be settlers Champlain is big here for sure anyways I stared the sun a good bit as it rose like a phoenix from the ashes of the night and I can tell you one thing for sure. Just as I remembered, staring it in the eye as a youth, it seemed to be within the boundaries within the containment of the fermament. As immutable as it seems, our sun does really appear as a created object pour our plaisir

Quote (Santara @ Jun 19 2019 12:54pm)

I spent roughly a year at sea during my Navy service. I've seen sunrises and sunsets that would astound you. The sun didn't ever once just "shrink out of sight," it passed below the horizon, because we're on an oblate spheroid. I've been at the chart table as the navigator gives course corrections (turns) so that we can keep going in a "straight line." This is known as great circle navigation.

Quote (MargeThompson @ Jun 19 2019 08:02pm)

lmao k

Quote (kai_jph @ Jun 18 2019 08:50pm)

Well thats a another vid with no credible references so...

Quote (Belarathon @ Jun 19 2019 12:54am)

I see.

My sister is a flat earth advocate and I am worried about my nephew's future. I have recently read "The Demon-Haunted World: Science As a Candle in the Dark" As a means to bring freshly to my mind a way to combat my sister's ignorance. I am not worried about my sister; she has a great job with heath benefits for young Ryker. Who I am worried about is my nephew Ryker. I am afraid that he will have no chance in life with his mother poisoning his mind from the very start. Okay, the general public school system may not be the best, but what hope can we have for Ryker if he enters school distrusting his teachers and adamantly assuming the world is flat? What I am wondering here is how I can approach my sister calmly and quietly about her views on the flat earth.

Let me explain a little bit about her behaviour:

It is quite typical of a conspiracy theorist. She has a general distrust in authority, which is why I cannot use any authoritative studies to dissuade her beliefs. Any attempt to speak with her about the science behind flat earth and/or reality (globe earth...) results in her frenzied anger almost immediately. Let me be clear: I do not (at least I am trying not to) attack her in any way in my approach. I am not trying to belittle her beliefs or question them. Even if I simply ask her about the flat earth she begins to flip out (because she knows that I do not believe it, so she knows where the conversation is going).

Please, for my nephew, I need some help. How can I:
-Get Jen to have a conversation with me rationally
-Make a valid point to her that she cannot defer to youtube videos which obviously deter the whole discussion since we can't continue talking until I have watched a 2 hour bogus documentary...
-Help my nephew have a good start in life despite his flat earth/conspiracy theorist mother

I've decided that giving Ryker a secret education behind Jen's back is not the way to go. Instead, I need to convince Jen. Any ideas how I can help out my nephew?

Quote (card_sultan @ Jun 19 2019 04:47pm)

ok - you got Scientific evidence the earth is a spinning ball rocketing through an endless vacuum at 2,000,000 mph in 4 vectored directions breaking the second law of thermodynamics - ok cant wait for you to present this evidence - finally after 12,000 post we're getting somewhere - ok go!

Quote (Santara @ Jun 19 2019 08:54am)

I spent roughly a year at sea during my Navy service. I've seen sunrises and sunsets that would astound you. The sun didn't ever once just "shrink out of sight," it passed below the horizon, because we're on an oblate spheroid. I've been at the chart table as the navigator gives course corrections (turns) so that we can keep going in a "straight line." This is known as great circle navigation.