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Jun 16 2019 12:04pm
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Numbers can be used to represent reality.


So accounting is reality cause they use numbers? So explain how Enron and Bernie Madoff were able to steal billions of dollars -
did someone simply forget to look at their accounting - or do some people simply not understand what numbers mean?

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Jun 16 2019 12:11pm
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So accounting is reality cause they use numbers? So explain how Enron and Bernie Madoff were able to steal billions of dollars -
did someone simply forget to look at their accounting - or do some people simply not understand what numbers mean?


Yes numbers can. Although accounting has nothing to do with topic at hand and is a hilarious attempt by you to dodge another lost argument. For example I can use a number to represent how many objects of a type I have , this is kindergarten level stuff but it might actually be where one should start with you. That someone might lie about how many items they have really has nothing to do with the ability of numbers to represent realities.
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Jun 16 2019 12:22pm
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Yes numbers can. Although accounting has nothing to do with topic at hand and is a hilarious attempt by you to dodge another lost argument. For example I can use a number to represent how many objects of a type I have , this is kindergarten level stuff but it might actually be where one should start with you. That someone might lie about how many items they have really has nothing to do with the ability of numbers to represent realities.


Numbers CAN represent reality
Numbers can also represent complete fiction

you just cant tell the difference

and in high level math - they dont even use numbers - it all theoretical concepts and symbols aka - philosophy
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Jun 16 2019 12:31pm
Quote (card_sultan @ Jun 16 2019 12:22pm)
Numbers CAN represent reality
Numbers can also represent complete fiction

you just cant tell the difference

and in high level math - they dont even use numbers - it all theoretical concepts and symbols aka - philosophy



Trigonometry and distances are not high level math.
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Jun 16 2019 12:35pm
Quote (remco6 @ Jun 16 2019 08:31am)
Trigonometry and distances are not high level math.


Ok mr Math genius, please explain this equation in English and if it proves an unstable universe.

https://imgur.com/kB9CFfw
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Jun 16 2019 12:42pm
Quote (remco6 @ Jun 16 2019 08:31am)
Trigonometry and distances are not high level math.


So your belief on ball earth is based on a digital representation of a cartoon map?

That assertion equivocates logically to someone from 2nd century Bc claiming this is reality someone showed me a current map, have you seen maps from 2nd century Bc?
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Jun 16 2019 01:07pm
Quote (card_sultan @ Jun 16 2019 12:42pm)
So your belief on ball earth is based on a digital representation of a cartoon map?

That assertion equivocates logically to someone from 2nd century Bc claiming this is reality someone showed me a current map, have you seen maps from 2nd century Bc?



Nope, my belief that earth is a globe is based on simple observations such as how celestial bodies ,ships on horizons and mountains are viewed. Nasa’s Contribution is just icing on the cake.
Simplest explanations are the best .
It is not based on ‘laws’ that require suspension of belief like objects appear different sizes if I’m standing up or laying down.

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Jun 16 2019 04:46pm
Quote (remco6 @ Jun 16 2019 09:07am)
Nope, my belief that earth is a globe is based on simple observations such as how celestial bodies ,ships on horizons and mountains are viewed. Nasa’s Contribution is just icing on the cake.
Simplest explanations are the best .
It is not based on ‘laws’ that require suspension of belief like objects appear different sizes if I’m standing up or laying down.


Objects further away from you dont follow the same size changes as objects closer to you, this was demonstrated in the video (Which you probably didn't watch and refuse to understand)
It has nothing to do with whether your appeal to ridiculousness of laying down or standing up, it has to do with distance away from you the object is.

Ships on the horizon don't go over a physical hump of water where they are obstructed by the leading edge of the earth.
If it was actually physically traveling up to the horizon in every direction you looked, you would be standing in a dimple and your not on a golf ball.
Things appear to go up because they are optically raising, in order for your eyes to perceive depth, where the sky starts to converges with the earth, you encounter the mirroring zone and past that you no longer need to use depth perception - and so things do not optically rise.

Celestial bodies show no parallax, red shift is simply a doppler effect, stars are much closer than you think, the result of sonoluminescence and Cymatics and viewing them is just a result of inverted refraction.

Nasa images are not real, i've seen 100s of examples of how they fake it with CGI, green screens and VR technologies. Rockets don't work in Space and Earth being a pressurized system inside an endless perfect vacuum of space is simply a violation of the second Law of thermodynamic and of entropy.

And the one topic your didn't mention is your faith in Gravity to make it all work out, there is no scientific evidence for its existence - it is actually a pseudo force, it doesnt exist.

You can deny reality all you want, believe you were taught the truth before you were critically able to think for yourself, but sooner or later - it's all going to smack you in your face.
The Occam's Razor answer is the Earth is flat, you need endless excuses of every detail in order to think the spaceball fantasy actually works.
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Jun 16 2019 05:53pm
Quote (card_sultan @ Jun 16 2019 11:46pm)
Objects further away from you dont follow the same size changes as objects closer to you, this was demonstrated in the video (Which you probably didn't watch and refuse to understand)
It has nothing to do with whether your appeal to ridiculousness of laying down or standing up, it has to do with distance away from you the object is.

Ships on the horizon don't go over a physical hump of water where they are obstructed by the leading edge of the earth.
If it was actually physically traveling up to the horizon in every direction you looked, you would be standing in a dimple and your not on a golf ball.
Things appear to go up because they are optically raising, in order for your eyes to perceive depth, where the sky starts to converges with the earth, you encounter the mirroring zone and past that you no longer need to use depth perception - and so things do not optically rise.

Celestial bodies show no parallax, red shift is simply a doppler effect, stars are much closer than you think, the result of sonoluminescence and Cymatics and viewing them is just a result of inverted refraction.

Nasa images are not real, i've seen 100s of examples of how they fake it with CGI, green screens and VR technologies. Rockets don't work in Space and Earth being a pressurized system inside an endless perfect vacuum of space is simply a violation of the second Law of thermodynamic and of entropy.

And the one topic your didn't mention is your faith in Gravity to make it all work out, there is no scientific evidence for its existence - it is actually a pseudo force, it doesnt exist.

You can deny reality all you want, believe you were taught the truth before you were critically able to think for yourself, but sooner or later - it's all going to smack you in your face.
The Occam's Razor answer is the Earth is flat, you need endless excuses of every detail in order to think the spaceball fantasy actually works.


How can someone so intelligent like you get 50% warn?
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Jun 16 2019 09:04pm
Quote (Lasagnacat @ Jun 16 2019 01:53pm)
How can someone so intelligent like you get 50% warn?



easy . Well first off - like everyone, when they hear about Flat Earth - they think they can debunk it.
So they try to debate it and slowly they realize they have no actual proof we live on a spinning ball, cartoons just don't work as good as they use to.
So then they resort to option #2, call anyone how doesnt believe the consensus state relegion retarded and crazy and if they say anything back - cry to mods or youtube/facebook police and get the person banned.
This is what us happening on youtube now, you're going to see more book burning . banning and silencing of dissenting opinions.
Welcome to your Dystopian Future and the Land of Thought Police.

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