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Jun 15 2019 11:39pm
Quote (ChivasRegal @ Jun 16 2019 04:37am)
Please don't lash out and cry because you fail to understand something. Just keep researching it until you do get it.
I stated in the past, this was my biggest hurdle personally when researching the entire flat earth model back in 2016.


You the one who doesn't seem to understand

(This has been duscussed so many times)
According to you the sun is not actually setting but moving out of our range of site

With the law of perspective objects appear smaller as they move away or out of our range of vision


(From wiki link above)

The sun however does not

You then offered a theory that water in the atmosphere causes magnification and we had this discussion


https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=77269763&f=27&o=6510

To end, you claimed water in the atmosphere was in gas form which actually does not cause magnification

To which you replied

Quote (ChivasRegal @ Mar 21 2018 07:25am)
I'll listen to information being presented as hearsay, but I won't accept it as the absolute truth, until I can personally verify that information first hand.


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Jun 15 2019 11:45pm
Quote (Santara @ Jun 15 2019 06:12pm)
Yay, entertainment is back.

Try to keep it clean, I missed you card.


thanks, im sure this place was boring as heck with a bunch of cry bullies who get offended when you dont believe that Fundamentalist Sun worshipping cult.

Quote (Thor123422 @ Jun 15 2019 06:34pm)
The perspective given in the wiki article follows basic trig, and as such you would never see a sun set on a flat earth.


Since you dont understand how Compasses work, I'm not surprised that you're still stuck in your 2d side view orthographic cartoon "muppet vision" understanding of reality and dont understand how reality is actually 3d optical zero point perspective. The rising optical plane occults the optically declining higher planes. And while the area before the horizon is 3d, past it is 2d and this is how you perceive depth - that mysterious 3rd plane you lack understanding of. Im sorry but Math is not reality, and your kind of failure of logic is the same flawed thinking that allowed Enron to embezzled billions of dollars, cause people believed the math of the accountants 100% when it was totally fake. But maybe your right and you should buy this land my accountant is selling in Florida, he says it's worth a fortune but will sell it cheap, i'll send you his #, his math checks out.....

https://imgur.com/RYDxrAV
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Jun 15 2019 11:54pm
Quote (kai_jph @ Jun 15 2019 07:39pm)
You the one who doesn't seem to understand

(This has been duscussed so many times)
According to you the sun is not actually setting but moving out of our range of site

With the law of perspective objects appear smaller as they move away or out of our range of vision

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2a/Railroad-Tracks-Perspective.jpg/90px-Railroad-Tracks-Perspective.jpg
(From wiki link above)

The sun however does not

You then offered a theory that water in the atmosphere causes magnification and we had this discussion


[URL=https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=77269763&f=27&o=6510]https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=77269763&f=27&o=6510[/URL]

To end, you claimed water in the atmosphere was in gas form which actually does not cause magnification

To which you replied


your mistaking ground pererstive for stellar perspective - they do not work the same

does an airplane at 30,000 feet change size as it cross the sky - it does not

dont worry, this basic point eludes almost every Fundamental parrot of flawed thinking
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Jun 16 2019 12:58am
Quote (card_sultan @ Jun 15 2019 11:45pm)
thanks, im sure this place was boring as heck with a bunch of cry bullies who get offended when you dont believe that Fundamentalist Sun worshipping cult.



Since you dont understand how Compasses work, I'm not surprised that you're still stuck in your 2d side view orthographic cartoon "muppet vision" understanding of reality and dont understand how reality is actually 3d optical zero point perspective. The rising optical plane occults the optically declining higher planes. And while the area before the horizon is 3d, past it is 2d and this is how you perceive depth - that mysterious 3rd plane you lack understanding of. Im sorry but Math is not reality, and your kind of failure of logic is the same flawed thinking that allowed Enron to embezzled billions of dollars, cause people believed the math of the accountants 100% when it was totally fake. But maybe your right and you should buy this land my accountant is selling in Florida, he says it's worth a fortune but will sell it cheap, i'll send you his #, his math checks out.....

https://imgur.com/RYDxrAV


Yes yes, math is a conspiracy that works to build your house, your car, your computer, and literally everything else but when it becomes inconvenient it just stops working.

Your explanation was word salad btw, the horizon isn't where we stop perceiving 3d, and I have a much better understanding of geometry than you do.
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Jun 16 2019 01:00am
Quote (card_sultan @ Jun 15 2019 11:54pm)
your mistaking ground pererstive for stellar perspective - they do not work the same

does an airplane at 30,000 feet change size as it cross the sky - it does not

dont worry, this basic point eludes almost every Fundamental parrot of flawed thinking


Yes it absolutely does.

The apparent size of airplanes changes as it gets closer or further while maintaining the same height, Id advise you to actually go outside and look at one instead of saying something so monumentally stupid.
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Jun 16 2019 01:48am
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jun 15 2019 09:00pm)
Yes it absolutely does.

The apparent size of airplanes changes as it gets closer or further while maintaining the same height, Id advise you to actually go outside and look at one instead of saying something so monumentally stupid.


so why cant anyone after 2 years show this - oh that's right - they cant cause it doesnt happen
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Jun 16 2019 01:53am
Quote (card_sultan @ Jun 16 2019 07:54am)
your mistaking ground pererstive for stellar perspective - they do not work the same

does an airplane at 30,000 feet change size as it cross the sky - it does not

dont worry, this basic point eludes almost every Fundamental parrot of flawed thinking


Yes it does as its distance from you changes

But lets looks at chivas' reply above scientifically with your theory

We now have to asume that water in the atmosphere in gas form (chivas' own words) behaves differently that on ground level.

Thus in the atmosphere it causes magnification (of the sun causing it to appear the same size) when on ground level it does not
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Quote (Thor123422 @ Jun 15 2019 08:58pm)
Yes yes, math is a conspiracy that works to build your house, your car, your computer, and literally everything else but when it becomes inconvenient it just stops working.

Your explanation was word salad btw, the horizon isn't where we stop perceiving 3d, and I have a much better understanding of geometry than you do.


Math is not a conspiracy, just your misunderstanding of how to interpret it is.
If Math is always correct , why did the distance to the sun change from 4000 staddai to 1 million miles to 53 million miles to 128 million miles and back to 93 million miles?
Why cant your model account for 96% of matter and energy. Oh i forgot - its a Religion you have 1000% faith in, you're a dogmatic fundamentalist.
Do you even understand your model and its history, i think not. Keep dodging, lol.
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Jun 16 2019 02:01am
Quote (kai_jph @ Jun 15 2019 09:53pm)
Yes it does as its distance from you changes

But lets looks at chivas' reply above scientifically with your theory

We now have to asume that water in the atmosphere in gas form (chivas' own words) behaves differently that on ground level.

Thus in the atmosphere it causes magnification (of the sun causing it to appear the same size) when on ground level it does not


you keep saying it , SO SHOW IT!

INB4 FAIL!
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Jun 16 2019 02:19am
Quote (card_sultan @ Jun 16 2019 10:01am)
you keep saying it , SO SHOW IT!

INB4 FAIL!


Since you guys love youtube



Lets see your vid showing the opposite and we can compare



Now, explain how water in gas form operates differently in the atmosphere than it does on the ground

Quote (kai_jph @ Jun 16 2019 09:53am)
But lets looks at chivas' reply above scientifically with your theory

We now have to asume that water in the atmosphere in gas form (chivas' own words) behaves differently that on ground level.

Thus in the atmosphere it causes magnification (of the sun causing it to appear the same size) when on ground level it does not


or are you refuting this claim since it was chivas' not yours?

This post was edited by kai_jph on Jun 16 2019 02:31am
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