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Jan 13 2017 05:01am
Quote (Leevee @ Jan 13 2017 08:25pm)
Do you consider the possibility that you have come to a conclusion that is incorrect?


No.

I exhausted all avenues, and had all my questions answered to my satisfaction.

FE is the truth
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Jan 13 2017 05:02am
Quote (card_sultan @ Jan 13 2017 12:56pm)
The answer is Width Height and Depth, but x, y , z will do - z being depth which is the most important axis when referring to actual perspective.

Now look at that picture - you see the z axis, see how the railroad tracks appear to converge - but of course the dont - they are completely parallel.

But know also notice how they appear to get higher - so notice how the further away they are - the higher they get

again you know thats not true right? that are completely flat, they dont actually get higher - they appear to get higher due to perspective.

Now see the point they join up higher than the bottom - at the horizon right?

Now is that the real horizon or the horizon you think is real but is only there due to perspective?


You are not working towards an answer.
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Jan 13 2017 05:05am
Quote (Leevee @ Jan 13 2017 01:02am)
You are not working towards an answer.


It is a process - if you dont participate in the process i wont know where your misunderstanding is.
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Jan 13 2017 05:34am
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It is a process - if you dont participate in the process i wont know where your misunderstanding is.


I do not see why you'd already assume that I misunderstand your post before you've posted it.

You can simply post the answer from beginning to end, and I'll let you know if I understand it or not.
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Gg ur faker
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Jan 13 2017 08:58am
ok, so here it is, the final piece:



you may have to watch this many times to understand it entirely.

This will show you that God (our Creator) is an incredible engineer and architect
everything has a purpose by design (whether we understand it or not)
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Jan 13 2017 09:11am
Quote (ChivasRegal @ Jan 13 2017 10:58am)
ok, so here it is, the final piece:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ycAQlHkd0E

you may have to watch this many times to understand it entirely.

This will show you that God (our Creator) is an incredible engineer and architect
everything has a purpose by design (whether we understand it or not)


there is no god tho
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Jan 13 2017 09:27am
Quote (Leevee @ 13 Jan 2017 11:23)
http://i.imgur.com/QO0Zifu.png

This image shows a person (black), the flat Earth (green) and the sun (orange/yellow). Disclaimer: sizes and lengths are not taken into account. Possibly the green line should stop earlier or should continue further, but that's not really of importance right now.

What I'm confused about, is the fact that this seemingly happens when you watch the sun set on the sea/ocean. The sun comes closer and closer to the horizon (as you explained with perspective lines), but then at some point it actually dips below the horizon. In other words, the perceived distance between the horizon and the sun becomes not just zero, but negative.

This is what I'm asking you to explain. Purely based on the theory of perspective planes as you explain it, this should be impossible.


good point. i have the same opinion on flat earth just like you.
there are some good points out there and one could believe the world was flat.
BUT this argument is just the best & clearest for me. there is no doubt for me that there is anything wrong with this argumentation.
i'm gonna explain it in a slightly different way:

assume the world is flat and the sun is like 5000km above the world, circling around.
try to imagine a small world like that infront of yourself on a table, and try to think of the angle of you, staying on the world, and the sun in 5000km height.
if the sun straight over you, it's certainly a 90 degree angle.
if the sun is very far away, like the on the other side of the world, it should be a 15-20 degree angle.
in every situation in every day, the angle would always be between such numbers, 15 - 90 degree.
but i am pretty sure that everyone has seen the sun in lower angles to the world. when the sun goes down it is at like 2 or 3 degree and then "goes away" or "goes under". no matter in which of those cases you believe, it's not possible to achieve a 3 degree angle in a flat world. therefore the assumption is disproved.
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Quote (Leevee @ Jan 13 2017 05:34am)
I do not see why you'd already assume that I misunderstand your post before you've posted it.

You can simply post the answer from beginning to end, and I'll let you know if I understand it or not.


i assume he's just buying time in the hopes you'll forget so he can look smart.

also had a laugh at "length width and height" english words being the name for the 3 dimensions, not x, y, z which are far more widely used mathematical terms for a mathematical term like "3 d".

can anyone draw up a crude diagram for the amount that the sun would need to grow/shrink for this explanation to work. Like am i misunderstanding or wouldn't the sun need to substantially shrink in order to disappear over the horizon? i legit still don't even understand how that perspective is working on the model as no good pictures have been posted.
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Jan 13 2017 09:47am
just :locked: it finally :)
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