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Jan 13 2017 04:34am
Quote (card_sultan @ Jan 13 2017 12:30pm)
The problem here is that your stuck thinking in a 2 d side view which is completely wrong and It is made to make you think ball earth is real, see if you watched the video i posted you would already know this .

You need to understand much more about perspective and how perspective lines relate to reality.


I am not thinking in a 2D side view simply because I don't have the ability to paint anything else in MS Paint.

Last time I visited the sea-side, I witnessed exactly the thing I described, in full 3D real live immersion mode. My 2D picture is a bad representation of it, but if you truly have a viable explanation then it should not matter. You know just as well as I do that the phenomenon I am describing is real. The open point is whether you can explain why it happens.
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Quote (Leevee @ Jan 13 2017 07:53pm)
http://i.imgur.com/QO0Zifu.png

This image shows a person (black), the flat Earth (green) and the sun (orange/yellow). Disclaimer: sizes and lengths are not taken into account. Possibly the green line should stop earlier or should continue further, but that's not really of importance right now.

What I'm confused about, is the fact that this seemingly happens when you watch the sun set on the sea/ocean. The sun comes closer and closer to the horizon (as you explained with perspective lines), but then at some point it actually dips below the horizon. In other words, the perceived distance between the horizon and the sun becomes not just zero, but negative.

This is what I'm asking you to explain. Purely based on the theory of perspective planes as you explain it, this should be impossible.


u clearly don't understand "perspective view" yet.......maybe take a break and watch it again later

it is difficult to comprehend at first, this I understand.
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Jan 13 2017 04:37am
No matter whether you're trolling or genuinely trying to convince people that Earth is flat -- currently you're both doing a bad job at it.

Your last posts were basically "I have no answer to this -- please just go back to my previous answer and disregard the question you just asked."
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Jan 13 2017 04:40am
Quote (Leevee @ Jan 13 2017 12:34am)
I am not thinking in a 2D side view simply because I don't have the ability to paint anything else in MS Paint.

Last time I visited the sea-side, I witnessed exactly the thing I described, in full 3D real live immersion mode. My 2D picture is a bad representation of it, but if you truly have a viable explanation then it should not matter. You know just as well as I do that the phenomenon I am describing is real. The open point is whether you can explain why it happens.


I need to make sure you understand the basics first, the question is what are the three dimension in 3d?
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Jan 13 2017 04:42am
Quote (card_sultan @ Jan 13 2017 12:40pm)
I need to make sure you understand the basics first, the question is what are the three dimension in 3d?


Just more dodging. You do not need me to answer any more questions in order to explain why the sun sometimes seems to dip below the horizon.
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Quote (Leevee @ Jan 13 2017 12:42am)
Just more dodging. You do not need me to answer any more questions in order to explain why the sun sometimes seems to dip below the horizon.


If you cant answer a basic question, there is no point here.
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Quote (card_sultan @ Jan 13 2017 12:43pm)
If you cant answer a basic question, there is no point here.


I call the three dimensions x, y and z.

Now please explain.
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Jan 13 2017 04:54am
Quote (Leevee @ Jan 13 2017 08:07pm)
No matter whether you're trolling or genuinely trying to convince people that Earth is flat -- currently you're both doing a bad job at it.

Your last posts were basically "I have no answer to this -- please just go back to my previous answer and disregard the question you just asked."


you sound like you are getting upset because you are failing to understand. I am not to blame for that.

please take into account, when I first "entertained" this idea of a flat earth theory, almost 1 year ago, I (just like you) had a shit tonne of questions regarding this subject.
I spent days & weeks literally non-stop researching this online trying to understand how this could be possible. I was completely on my own, typing in google, flat earth questions, and then trying to sift through the BS results to find the real answers,
I didn't just accept it, I was trying to learn and understand.......sometimes i would take a break for a day to clear my mind, then continue the research.........somehow I was able to break the indoctrination, and suddenly it all just became so obvious.

I am still trying to understand how I can break the indoctrination and learn the truth, but so many others cannot?

please don't give up the research.......the truth is out there
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Quote (ChivasRegal @ Jan 13 2017 12:54pm)
you sound like you are getting upset because you are failing to understand. I am not to blame for that.

please take into account, when I first "entertained" this idea of a flat earth theory, almost 1 year ago, I (just like you) had a shit tonne of questions regarding this subject.
I spent days & weeks literally non-stop researching this online trying to understand how this could be possible. I was completely on my own, typing in google, flat earth questions, and then trying to sift through the BS results to find the real answers,
I didn't just accept it, I was trying to learn and understand.......sometimes i would take a break for a day to clear my mind, then continue the research.........somehow I was able to break the indoctrination, and suddenly it all just became so obvious.

I am still trying to understand how I can break the indoctrination and learn the truth, but so many others cannot?

please don't give up the research.......the truth is out there


Do you consider the possibility that you have come to a conclusion that is incorrect?
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Jan 13 2017 04:56am
Quote (Leevee @ Jan 13 2017 12:44am)
I call the three dimensions x, y and z.

Now please explain.


The answer is Width Height and Depth, but x, y , z will do - z being depth which is the most important axis when referring to actual perspective.

Now look at that picture - you see the z axis, see how the railroad tracks appear to converge - but of course the dont - they are completely parallel.

But know also notice how they appear to get higher - so notice how the further away they are - the higher they get

again you know thats not true right? that are completely flat, they dont actually get higher - they appear to get higher due to perspective.

Now see the point they join up higher than the bottom - at the horizon right?

Now is that the real horizon or the horizon you think is real but is only there due to perspective?

This post was edited by card_sultan on Jan 13 2017 04:58am
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