Attualmente studio l'italiano e voglio domandarvi quando ci dobbiamo usare "ce" (Hai la carta di credito? -No,non ce l'ho)

Non ci possiamo saltare ce e solo si dice "No, non l'ho"?

E quando ci dobbiamo usare "Ci si"? (Uno si sveglia presto --> Ci si sveglia presto) ma perché no semplicemente "Si sveglia presto?"

Mi scusi ma provo sviluppare

Grazie mille

yes, you can, "ce" is usually not necessary



"Si sveglia presto" = "he/she gets up early"

"Ci si sveglia presto" = "we have to get up early" (this is not the literal translation but this is the meaning of the sentence)

"Ci si" --> reflexive form of the verb

bye

thanks for the response

Can I skip ce all the time?

So basically the "Ci" in "Ci si" means "have to"? like a hidden dovere?

I see most of the times the verbs in the sentences are in "reflessivo".

In some cases it sounds totally weird like "arrampicarsi come uno scoiattolo"

Does this always mean that the meaning is that "somebody does something generally"? Or is there some cases where there is something deeper or more?

Thanks

Sa meglio l'italiano lui che mezza sezione qua dentro.....

Epic >>

no, for example: "quanti martelli vi servono? ce ne servono tre" means "how many hammers do you need? we need three of them"



no it's not that easy italian is a shitty language man, full of grammar rules and exceptions :S

just an example: "puoi mettere quattro sedie sopra il tavolo per favore? no, non ci stanno" means "could you put four chairs on the table please? no, there isn't room enough (on the table)"



in most cases when you use a reflexive form of a verb, the action done by the subject is referred to the subject itself, for example: "marco si sta vestendo" means "marco is getting (himself) dressed"

you can also use the reflexive form to say something general, without referring to a particular subject, for example "preoccuparsi troppo fa male alla salute" means "worrying too much isn't good for your health"

bye

This post was edited by Wolfos on Jan 5 2016 01:34pm

haha il negro che insegna l'italiano all'ungherese hahahaha

e se fosse "quanto martelli il cazzo?" how much you hammer the dick man!

This post was edited by Joker_Devil on Jan 5 2016 01:34pm

ahahahhahahah ma vai a cagare



e se fosse "ma vai a farti fottere coglione di un joker_devil di sto cazzo?" ora capisco perchè molti qui dentro ti considerano simpatico come una piantagione di ortiche nelle mutande

This post was edited by Wolfos on Jan 5 2016 01:37pm

come te la prendi subito ;\